Members bluejeanbaby3 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 The stunt casting has been horrible as well as the casting of characters we don't care about -- putting our other faves on the backburner. The Ashley gaslighting was bad. I can still see Adam in that purple dress. Ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KMan101 Posted August 21, 2012 Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 Once the Chipmunk story/Adam tormenting Sharon and Ashley/Phillip is gay and faked his death zzzzz ... that's when I stoped watching. I enjoyed most of her early tenure and really enjoyed the Marge/Katherine story. I like that she brought back a lot of past favorites and somewhat mined history, but overall, the last few years have been a disaster. The cast is bloated with soap refugees who's characters are ill-defined and the rest of the cast are treated like jokes, save for a few. MAB also seems to hold grudges against actors (Case/Muhney) and lets it affect the writing. Sharon's destruction has been so painful to watch. And what's Jack's purpose anymore? Not to mention Victoria and Nicholas are pathetic shades of their former selves, who I could have seen go after Newman and Victoria used to be someone who could hold her own and fight back. I also hate how MAB writes Billy, and the way they let Billy Miller play him as some joke. Not to mention the ridiculous misuse of Olivia, Neil ... the terrible recastings of Diane and Malcolm. Ugh. Maura West deserved much better. I like that she revisted Phyllis's past but it made everyone but Phyllis seem like a villain. Sigh. I also resented the way she killed off Brad and Colleen, making it impossible for either character to be resurrected. Poor Traci. BTW, I can't remember who killed off John? Was it Latham or MAB? I think it was Latham but I just don't remember. That was also a dumb decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluejeanbaby3 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 I wasn't sure when that ended, with LML or shortly after MAB started...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluejeanbaby3 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 I don't like Cane/Lily anymore. They have become so boring. I posted before that the only place I'd ever in my life seen boring black people was on Y&R. I would love to see Chloe and Chelsea become besties and keep things stirred up, if Chelsea stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluejeanbaby3 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 I think part of what makes a soap good is redeeming the core characters who have gone off the rails. It can be done with good writing. I loved Michael's redemption, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluejeanbaby3 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 Characters have been let go while others I like less have stayed on... Cane, Genevieve, Sophia, Harmony... Glad Ricky and Daisy were killed off but it's not enough for me. I do love that it gave Paul and Nina more screen time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluejeanbaby3 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 I didn't like Adam's seduction of Rafe. At all. I don't think the writers should have gone there. But they were just getting started with him... That was so rushed that it didn't seem as sad as it should have (for me) as a from day #1 viewer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluejeanbaby3 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 I never thought I would get to a point where I don't enjoy MS' Phyllis anymore, but I am there. They have put her and Vic on too much at the expense of others. You are spot on: there are too many new/young characters. I FF any scene involving Genevieve, Cane/Lily, Devon, Neil/Sophia/Harmony every time and sometimes others. I would love for Dru to come back and to see more scenes of Leslie as the primary attorney character on the show. (I also like Avery.) I wish I liked Heather more than I do because she is being portrayed by a former ATWT actress. I still miss ATWT and GL so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluejeanbaby3 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 Soap refugees. Exactly. I think a better balance could have been made so that Y&R still looked like Y&R. I heard the present casting director was AMC's former CD but I don't know if that is true. I have seen it happen so many times when an actor or an actress just didn't work and was quickly let go, yet how many times has Genevieve's character been retooled? She just does not fit in at Y&R, imo. I think MAB liked Muhney and that is why Adam was never held accountable. I think she caters to Eric Braeden which is why Sharon and Victoria and Nikki and Jack have been reduced to what they are now. I like Billy but hated the speech he gave at Nikki and Jack's wedding. That was a WTH? moment. I haven't cared much for Nick since he bedded Phyllis and Avery within a matter of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted August 21, 2012 Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 Chipmunk. Recasting Adam. FETUSGATE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members y&r_fan Posted August 21, 2012 Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 The trouble started with Phillip's return and Colleen's death. Sarah/Daisy/Ryder was the final nail in the coffin. Actually the cross-dressing/fetus burning thing was Chris Engen's Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted August 21, 2012 Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 I beleive thats when we heard that Engen quit and MM was hired, presumably bc CE didnt want to play the material they had in store for Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluejeanbaby3 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 According to wikipedia, Engen's last airdate was 6/24/09 and Muhney's first airdate was 6/25/09. Ashley fell down the stairs and lost her baby 6-5-09, according to CBS recaps. Adam's seduction of Rafe began on 6-26-09: "As Adam hides the wig and dress he used to impersonate Sabrina, he talks to Hope about how much of a disappointment he has been. Before Adam can hide the box, however, Rafe shows up at Adam’s door. Rafe confronts Adam about his suspicions. Adam panics when Rafe starts searching his room for evidence. Just as Rafe is about to discover Adam’s secrets, Adam does the only thing he can think of to stop him. Adam reaches out and touches Rafe’s face seductively and admits to Rafe that he has feelings for him." http://www.cbs.com/shows/the_young_and_the_restless/episodes/25735 I think there have been flashbacks of Muhney's Adam in the purple dress... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faulkner Posted August 22, 2012 Members Share Posted August 22, 2012 Patty killing Zapato. I haven't watched regularly since. Call me a crazy PETA person, but for me that was a low for the show. And I had enjoyed the softness that the dog brought to Victor. And Phillip returning from the dead, which was ridiculous enough, but I was at least expecting some great scenes from Jess Walton and we got NONE of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members detroitpiston Posted August 22, 2012 Members Share Posted August 22, 2012 Fetus in the fireplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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