Which soap glorified rape first?

Days? Bill & Laura getting married in 1975 after he had raped her (resulting in Mike) in 1968?

And Pat Falken Smith wrote that AND Luke & Laura on GH. Bizarre. Laura Horton's maiden name is actually Spencer, too.

Edited August 20, 201213 yr by MissLlanviewPA

Gabrielle's death on OLTL. I'm glad that I haven't found it on YouTube yet--I don't know if I could watch it again.

And while I didn't like her, seeing Jen's death on OLTL was pretty difficult to watch, too.

Fiona Hutchison!!!!!! Swoon! I hated that Gabby died, but FH smoked it. When Al had died, that was FIona's Emmy, but... I believe Gabby's death is what put OLTL on my chit list, which is where it remained til it's timely death. The rumours were flying that FH was out, but TIIC continued to lie to us and tell us that there is more story for Gabby and she won't be going anywhere. Three weeks later, she was dead in Bo's arms. I cried, and unfortunately, it was at the OLTL table in the cafeteria at my job. Quite embarrassing!

Speaking of which, Adam throwing Ashley's fetus into fire on Y&R was pretty hard to watch

To me anytime a pregnant woman gets abused is horrifying. Watching Sam on GH get yanked by the hair and punched in the face was just too much

MAB was doing triple overtime to salvage Adam after this. There is no way Adam should have survived such a storyline. Crazy is crazy!

Maggie's murder on DAYS and Frankie's murder on AW.

But the first scene that really freaked me out was Dennis & Jamie finding Rocky's chopped-up remains in a plastic bag suspended in the water beneath the Cory boathouse.

Fiona Hutchison!!!!!! Swoon! I hated that Gabby died, but FH smoked it. When Al had died, that was FIona's Emmy, but... I believe Gabby's death is what put OLTL on my chit list, which is where it remained til it's timely death. The rumours were flying that FH was out, but TIIC continued to lie to us and tell us that there is more story for Gabby and she won't be going anywhere. Three weeks later, she was dead in Bo's arms. I cried, and unfortunately, it was at the OLTL table in the cafeteria at my job. Quite embarrassing!

This is what kept me away from OLTL for YEARS. I watched a tiny bit more after her death, but not for long. I actually stopped watching regularly after JDP (Max) was fired--I was crushed when that happened. But Gabrielle's death--no matter how much good Michael Malone did for the show, he killed Gabrielle off in the bathroom next to a toilet. And kept her from reuniting with Max. And that ain't cool with me.

And HELL YES to Al's death being Fiona's Emmy. I'll never understand why the only time Fiona ever got recognized was when she was nominated as Jenna on GL, and it was only one time, too. Ridiculous. I mean, I can see how the campy nature of OLTL in the late 80s/early 90s could overshadow her work, but still, she's always deserved more recognition than she EVER wound up getting.

Edited August 20, 201213 yr by MissLlanviewPA

Well, Fiona has JFP and her bloc voting to thank for that one Emmy nomination...

Touche.

Tiffany ODing after her miscarriage on GH. There's a close up of the bottle next to little baby shoes, which is how Holly figured out she had ODed. Pretty chilling.

And Georgie, dead, with a cord wrapped around her neck, while snow falls and Christmas lights glow on GH. Damn.

Days? Bill & Laura getting married in 1975 after he had raped her (resulting in Mike) in 1968?

And Pat Falken Smith wrote that AND Luke & Laura on GH. Bizarre. Laura Horton's maiden name is actually Spencer, too.

So he copied his storyline from DAYS onto GH? Funny since DAYS was claled a GH copy in the 80s

1, Frankie's murder on Another World

2. Nadine's murder on Guiding Light

3. Roman's "Murder" on Days of Our Lives

4. Cassie falling out of a turkey pinata on "Days Of Our Lives"

5. Chloe Morgan's murder on General Hospital

6. Veronica's murder on Santa Barbara by Peter Flint

So he copied his storyline from DAYS onto GH? Funny since DAYS was claled a GH copy in the 80s

Actually, she was a woman, which makes it worse (combined with the fact that you had female EP Gloria Monty there too).

Didn't John rape Kim on ATWT in the 70s when they were married? And she couldn't do anything about it because marital rape wasn't considered a crime yet? That wasn't how Andy was conceived, was it?

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So a woman started the rapemance trend, horrible.

I watch Marty Saybrooke's rape on youtube a couple of years ago and it really disturbed me.

Dear God, yes. The scenes where he tried to rape her again in the alley, with Luna hitting him with the pipe, are hard to watch, too.

So a woman started the rapemance trend, horrible.

Doug Marland, the GH HW before her, actually left the show because GM wanted Scotty/Laura's marriage complicated by Luke almost immediately, while he wanted the two of them to have storylines as a couple (happy, I'm assuming) alone for awhile. He wanted Luke to be fascinated by Laura, but that's it--Laura never would have wound up with him. He didn't Luke to rape her, either. GM/PFS actually intended to kill Luke off after the rape, but the then there was the whole chemistry thing, and we know what happened after that.

Didn't John rape Kim on ATWT in the 70s when they were married? And she couldn't do anything about it because marital rape wasn't considered a crime yet? That wasn't how Andy was conceived, was it?

Yes, John raped Kim sometime after she miscarried Bob's baby (later rewritten; Sabrina; Kim and Jennifer went into labor at the same time on Christmas Eve '72 or '73) but Andy was not a result of that rape. Kim later suffered a concussion in a tornado; John "kept her all to himself" (according to the ATWT bible) before she regained her memory, and she learned she was pregnant after that (after she had fallen in love with Dan). Andy (apparently) wasn't born until 1976.

The bible is unclear, but John clearly employed deception (he used her memory loss to his advantage and was actively trying to keep Kim and Dan apart), it seems Andy was the product of a "rapemance".

Edited August 20, 201213 yr by P.J.