Members quartermainefan Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 I can't believe people miss Guza. He, and even moreso Pratt, are just horrible writers indulging in nihilistic excess that sometimes bordered on the obscene. The image of 40 year old Sonny strangling 75 year old Edward with his necktie was disturbing--and this was the romantic hero! Georgie's death, the repeated replaying of Emily's death, random carnage with Cooper and was it he hanging himself so Maxie found the body? And Michael strangling AJ while Monica watched and did nothing, Luke paying Coleman to sleep with Tracy, and on and on and on with these neverending examples of bad taste mixed with a writer who has no interest in morality and meaning. He had an occasional good scene and seemed to have a hidden desire to write sitcoms with people like Diane and Spin, but for every harmless attempt at silliness were 20 examples of chaos and cruelty. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 I think people loved Guza for those specific moments in time, the big melodramatic action movie angst type scenes, usually accompanied by character death. I hate that on soaps so I was never much of a fan, but I can see why some miss it. In the pockets of abomination there was at times razor-sharp dialogue and strong acting, which isn't there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 I can't speak to Guza but Pratt was just a bad fit for AMC that doesn't change the fact that he had some good stuff. (The show had some energy and I like the stories he tried to do around the Iraq war and its effects on Frankie, Taylor and Brot.) I assume the same is true for Guza. Even the crappiest writer usually manage to do a couple of things right. Given the state of the genre that's all you need. There are no more Doug Marlands and Agnes Nixons. They're all working for cable or the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Pratt had Adam kill Stuart. Stuart being shot by his own twin brother. It's depraved and obscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 I know that. Like I said, he was a bad fit. That doesn't change the fact that he did some things right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chicklitsandfantasies Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 And didn't Annie's lie and say her daughter did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AllMyDaysatGH Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 No she just knew that Emma saw Adam kill Stuart and tried to convince her to say she saw Kendall do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 PREACH. Thank you for reminding everybody that what came before was so, so much worse -- and so much more destructive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chicklitsandfantasies Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Frank and Ron are hacks like everyone else and no better level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric83 Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 +1. I can admit that Guza can write a good story, but I couldn't with the Sonny/Jason worship and all the unnecessary deaths (Justus, Alan, Georgie, AJ, Emily, etc.) I'm still pissed he killed off Logan, that was my favorite Lulu pairing I have seen her in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 I don't think that's a UO. If it were, Carlivati wouldn't spend so much time and energy baiting his detractors on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chicklitsandfantasies Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Well lately with him them bringing back the 80s I keep seeing all over stuff about them being great and knowing how to write real soap and how others should follow their example. The most ridiculous thing I read had to have been an article that said something like Frank and Ron know that older characters attract the young viewers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 That the same blowjob the soap press has been giving him for years. It's nothing new. In fact, I predict that the Carlivati/Valentini fapfest will gain energy as we approach the GH anniversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chicklitsandfantasies Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 Oh I know the biased soap press has done it for a long time but it's not just the soap press doing it lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted November 25, 2012 Members Share Posted November 25, 2012 IMO, a lot of the people praising RC do it because they think that's the best/only way to support the genre. Basically, RC is to soaps what Danielle Steele is to Lifetime movies: a necessary evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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