Kim is just a dull void. I remember when she was on DWTS and she basically just was there, waiting to leave.

well maybe both are. It's not like it is either one or the other. The lack of education dumbs down America. Being dumber, they seek out the most moronic shows possible, further rotting the brain. With brain rot now in high gear, education has to be dumbed down even further so someone can graduate, and the cycle continues.

And I say with pride not only do I not know who Rob is, but I take pride in not knowing.

What pisses me off more than anything is shows like this are preferred by the masses more than intelligent shows to watch. Scripted dramas with good, solid premises that don't get a shot by networks because they'd rather go for the easy stuff.

I won't look down at people who watch reality. That's your choice. Approaching it from a soap perspective, I always say "Just remember, a show like this is one less chance for your favorite soap star or ex-soap star to get primetime work."

eh, idk. Me and my brother look nothing alike. at all. to the point where people we are both friends with that didnt know already had no idea we are brothers, and he looks nothing like my parents but i look exactly them. he takes after my mom's dad's side of the family.

are bot of you biracial? Its not so much that she looks nothing like her siblings, but that she doesnt look anything like their father. She looks like a white girl with no ounce of Armenian blood in her. Its hard to tell with the girls now after all the work and surgery they've gotten, but its quite apprent in their childhood pictures that Kim and Kourtney are at least mixxed with something and that stems from their father's strong Armenian features. Khloe doesnt have that. She stands out and this is long before she grew a foot taller than them

A few years ago Khloe did a DNA test against Kris's DNA cause she thought she was adopted...Obviously, she tested the wrong DNA.

A few years ago Khloe did a DNA test against Kris's DNA cause she thought she was adopted...Obviously, she tested the wrong DNA.

Even if he isnt her biological father, it doesnt matter. He IS her father. He raised her (as did Bruce).

But I do think he is her dad. I think she does look like Kim and Kourt, they just look identical to each other so her differences stand out.

We'll never be rid of these attention whores

Yes, we will - once someone newer comes along. Just like Kim & Co. deposed Paris & Co., they will be deposed by someone else.

Yes, we will - once someone newer comes along. Just like Kim & Co. deposed Paris & Co., they will be deposed by someone else.

With Paris, it was just herself. With Kim, there's 4 other sisters in the spotlight, with the younger 2 yet to blow up yet. I fear it will be a long time till we are completely rid of them

With Paris, it was just herself. With Kim, there's 4 other sisters in the spotlight, with the younger 2 yet to blow up yet. I fear it will be a long time till we are completely rid of them

Never underestimate the power of irrelevance, as it will terminate as many famehos as Raid kills roaches.

The clock is already ticking on them and it's only a matter of time before the clock strikes 15:00

They're a package deal so they will probably fade around the same time.

Never underestimate the power of irrelevance, as it will terminate as many famehos as Raid kills roaches.

The clock is already ticking on them and it's only a matter of time before the clock strikes 15:00

Ratings say otherwise.

That's insulting to me. I consider myself a smart person and know others way smarter than me that watch. Its just a tv show it has nothing to do with your intelligence. If watching the Kardashians' daily life entertains me I'm gonna watch. I'm wondering what exactly is smart programming bc soaps would be nowhere near that category.

Scripted television will always be better in terms of quality then these reality shows. You can enjoy these disastrous reality shows as much as you want. That doesn't mean they generally aren't poor substitutes for a well thought out and meaningful scripted show.

Scripted television will always be better in terms of quality then these reality shows. You can enjoy these disastrous reality shows as much as you want. That doesn't mean they generally aren't poor substitutes for a well thought out and meaningful scripted show.

Bullshit.

There is no way any daytime soap opera was higher quality in any way in the past decade - production, writing, staging, acting, promotion, story - than The Hills.

And a well done reality show trumps cheap looking shows with badly done plots like poisoned pancakes, unaborted babies, undead characters, etc played out by actors who checked out or never could act. The elitism soap fans are showing is astounding. What is being said about reality shows is what has been soap operas foreve - things soap fans claim to be untrue. I am not talking about cheap reality shows here either, shows like Kardashians, The Hills, Laguna Beach, The Real Housewives, these reality shows are all around well done. You may not like them, you may hate that they are replacing crappy scripted series, but that doesnt mean they are bad, cheap, stupid shows for idiots as has been implied by many in this thread. Though, that may be hard to see from a moral high horse of watching "smart" programming.

Also, news flash - not every show needs to be a smart, educational view point on society. The point of TV is to entertain. This whole notion of "smart tv" and soap operas somehow either being included or exempt is... well, stupid.

Wonderful post JP! I applaud it all. People are so quick to judge The Hills for stupidity, but I got so much pleasure from that show, and now that it's gone, there's a huge void in my TV viewing.

There is no way any daytime soap opera was higher quality in any way in the past decade - production, writing, staging, acting, promotion, story - than The Hills.

If that's the case, then it again shows the failure of the media, because all the media ever talked about was "Speidi", and silly feuds between female cast members. That seems to be the only legacy of the show.

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Bullshit.

Also, news flash - not every show needs to be a smart, educational view point on society. The point of TV is to entertain. This whole notion of "smart tv" and soap operas somehow either being included or exempt is... well, stupid.

You never heard me say soap operas were smart TV. My favorite OLTL story was Eterna. And as dumb as that story was it was still better than the staged fights and overly chatty interview room segments where teary women pretend to be upset about everything and anything for the camera.

And a well done reality show

Which as yet there is no such thing. The real houswives are neither real nor housewives. Real housewives don't star on Glee.

Edited January 26, 201213 yr by quartermainefan