Jump to content

October 31 - November 4, 2011


Toups

Recommended Posts

  • Members

Days had all those things they didn't need John, Marlena, Carrie, Austin for that. The show may not have had the best actors but it did have vets(Stefano, Kate, Maggie, VIctor, Lexie, Abe, Bo, Hope) and they are all still there. As for the thirtysomethings, Austin adds nothing, Carrie is ok, Sarah Brown a decent addition really isn't doing much right now, Shes the best addition to the group. And the younger cast is the same as it was. I can honestly say I missed none of those people. The balance and writing was the issue then and both are improved.

I still think Y&R has the most recognizable cast but they use the same set of characters all the time too so you rarely get to see Michael or Lauren or Neil or Devon or Paul or Nina but they are still there. IF the show would balance more airime with the Winters and Abbotts as it does with the Newmans and Phyllis and her entourage of the month, you'd get to see more recognizable faces more often. Plus they need to dump about 12 newbies.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 65
  • Created
  • Last Reply
  • Members

Since the news of the returns hit, it seemed to me that it was the beginning of a farewell valentine card to its audience. The 18-49 year-olds of 20 years ago have largely aged out of the desired demographic and bringing the old favorites back wasn't going to bring new viewers to the table. It gives the existing audience who've hung on for years -- and those who've only moved on recently to other things so could be tempted to check it out again -- an opportunity to ride the show out with some familiarity. I haven't watched DAYS since around 1988 (except for the horrible Anna/Calliope reunion last year, which managed to ruin in 6 episodes what was actually a rare friendship between women on soaps -- I prefer to pretend that reunion never happened!) but I recognize the names enough that I would have turned back in, had I cared.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I also get now to some extent why shows do not pay attention to online feedback and why Ken Corday is an idiot for letting people who are still watching the show dictate what he does. If the goal is to attract new viewers, why would you pay attention to feedback from people who as much as they complain, have not tuned out and most likely never will. Its why I never hated the idea of focus groups just how ABC for example tended to use them not for legit feedback but to endorse THEIR own personal agendas.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

It's just comical at times how people keep bitching and moaning about the state of their show. I sit here going "You WANTED change and now you got your change, and you're STILL bitching?"

Meanwhile, there are characters who should be more involved in story but are on the back burner because the fans wanted a glimpse of the old, beloved characters. The show does not have balance to it. And it's recycling old, tired story ideas.

Listen to me, I sound like one of those bitchy types. lol...

To paraphrase the late Andy Rooney, "D'ja ever think Days' worst enemy is its own fans? Why is that?"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Thats assuming all the people here bitching wanted the change. You should go back to the original threads when this stuff all started and you will see many voices of worry and complaint about all the supecouples coming back and characters/stories being dropped from the old regime. I had no major problems with the old "new" Days and I know several Days viewers on this board, while didnt feel it was perfect, liked the direction the show had moved in over the last 2 years when the show was restructured, most of which has now been undone in favor of being a throwback to the 90s. I preferred the old "new" Days over going back to the glory Days and wish Higley was still around

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Cheap, I also didn't mind a lot of the "new" Days. It was only in the final several months where Higley's writing went into the toilet. I liked a lot of the characters that came on in the last few years, but the hatred among a lot of people is viral towards the newbies. (Not here... people here are tame by comparison to other boards. lol)

That was my biggest problem I feared, too. I thought the old characters would swallow up all the airtime. So far it's happened to an extent, but there still has been room for other characters.

You are right about this board, though. Other boards all wanted the new characters drawn, quartered, guillotined and burned at the stake. All I could think was "Geez, guys, these characters DO have a following despite what you might think." :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Jane, you're right. Not to mention the animosity the ACTORS get. Look, I don't mind the occasional criticisms of characters on here at all. I for one can't stand EJ but I think James Scott does such a marvelous job of making you hate him. And it's certainly a person's free-speech right to voice his or her criticism. but it's quite another to attack the actor. They're only playing a character.

It's not just Days, though. Crystal Hunt got it a lot when she was Stacy on OLTL, and Michelle Stafford seems to draw a lot of criticism to her.

As far as these ratings, I think Days best remember that at the same time they brought back Drake, Deidre and Matthew, among others, they also fired Crystal, Nadia, Louise... if you had all these characters on canvas at the same time, maybe the numbers would have increased. Who knows? mellow.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Speaking of them. There was SOOOOO much potential with Vivian, Carly, and Chloe and its a shame they all got axxed. Chloe could have been utilized in the cosmetics war story as a model for Madison and that would have been perfect timing as she was fueled by her animosity towards Kate. Carly and Quinn worked well and Vivian being his mother would have written itself. Their stories were degrading nad awful but I didnt really find them boring. They were hot messes but oddly intriguing to watch. I felt like their stories were cut abruptly just as we were about to get to the good stuff.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

It seems there are two different Days groups right now. One who liked the show under Tomlin/Higley and hate it now. And another who hated it under Tomlin/Higley but like it now. Am I the only one that hated the Tomlin/Higley era and so far not liking the Meng/MarDar run? The only good thing about this "reboot" was Noel Maxam making the production values as good as possible with the low budget, but now he's gone.

And I really don't get those that say this is going back to the 90s. The show is extremely boring now, and they are trying to be so realistic and taking stories you would read on "the headlines" or whatever TPTB said. This is nothing like the 90s.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

It seems like they're trying to "recreate" the 1990s vibe. All we're essentially getting are the same characters in warmed-over storylines. I will say it seems like the action is finally picking up, but the reboot's shocking stories should have occurred right off the bat. Like say, something shocking in the first few episodes. That's how a new serial used to launch. Something happened in the first show and you'd be hooked.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • Thanks @Paul Raven  That Grainger story always reads like hog-wild melodrama, not very similar to the more subtle stories for Rita in her last few years. I wonder how Lenore played the material.
    • More from 1976 Lynn, apparently making every effort to overcome her alcoholism, accepts a baby-sitting job. However, when the baby starts crying, Lynn begins to get nervous and takes one drink, then another. By the time Bruce and Van arrive home, Lynn is on the floor, ineffectually trying to find the doctor’s number, sure the baby is ill. When the mother arrives; she vows to let everyone know what goes on in the mayor’s house.Bruce insists that Lynn has to go, but Van, learning that Lynn can’t remember drinking the cooking sherry, calls Joe to report Lynn’s blackouts. Joe wants her institutionalized but gives in to Van’ s pleas that Lynn needs loving attention. Eddie has sent some of Felicia’s work to a New |York gallery owner and reports to Charles that Lisa Cooper wants to exhibit Felicia’s work. Charles refuses to tell her this and later admits he feels he has “cowed”her attention because of his being confined to a wheelchair. What Charles doesn’t say is: that he’s plagued with fears she’ll leave him for another man. Felicia is exuberant as she starts painting again. She tells Charles how she feels about it, but, jealous of anyone or anything that takes attention from him, Charles tries to undermine her confidence. Eddie finally professes his love for her. He will be happy to step forward if she will only let Be and admit that they belong together. Charles tries to stop Felicia’s ‘trip to New York by making her doubt her own work, and when that fails, he finds business reasons at his bookshop to keep Di, his ex-wife, who is running it for him, from accompanying her. Felicia finally decides it’s not going to work and tells Eddie they might as well call it off. Instead, he arranges for Lisa Cooper to come to Rosehill. Charles is rude and insulting to Lisa when she arrives at the house to view Felicia’s work, and his derogatory remarks about shady gallery dealings prompt Lisa to tell Eddie that living in such an atmosphere could permanently stunt an artist’s development; if Felicia is subjected to this indefinitely, it’s not even worth Lisa’s while to take her on as a client. Felicia finally decides she can’t be torn apart any longer and must accede to Charles’s demands. She tells Eddie her career is over and she won’t paint any more, breaks down in his arms, crying bitterly, then pulls away, unwilling to acknowledge that her feelings for him are deeper than she dare face. Charles is delighted when she prepares to dispose of her art supplies, insisting everything will be fine once she has accepted that this part of her life is over. But she cannot do it. She promises him that he can set the limits and terms, but she must paint. Arlene discovers that her mother is planning to avoid the surgery she needs, and the accompanying medical bills, by leaving Rosehill and moving in with her sister Dorothy out west. Arlene manages to prevent this by calling her aunt and telling her the truth about Carrie’s condition. Dr. Tom Crawford has been footing the costs of Carrie’s presurgery tests, but Arlene knows that Carrie won’t like this. So she tells Carrie that David Hart, the son of Meg’s late husband, the former mayor, has heard about their plight and forwarded the money as a gesture of friendship, to be repaid when possible. To convince Carrie that she does indeed have the money, Arlene asks Ray to just lend it to her for a few hours, so she can convince Carrie and then immediately return it. Ray instructs her to get dressed for a night on the town and takes her, out implying that the money will be waiting at the end of the evening. When Ian Russell happens to join them, Arlene doesn’t suspect anything is afoot, but when e Ray suddenly leaves, she becomes furious, realizing what he’s done. But she finds Mr: Russell a distinguished and cultured man, and decides there’s no harm in having a drink. After cocktails and stimulating conversation, Ian suggests that they go to his place, and Arlene agrees. But when they get there, Ian matter of factly suggests that they skip the preliminaries and get on with it. Ian is embarrassed and annoyed to discover that Arlene is not a professional call girl and that Ray didn’t explain to her the purpose of their |meeting. He is apologetic and solicitous, until Arlene, explaining why Ray felt he could pull this on her, mentions her sick mother in need of an operation. Ian starts to laugh at this overworked standard line, and a livid Arlene storms out of his apartment. Thinking it over, Ian decides he’s more intrigued with Arlene than he is annoyed at Ray, and calls Ray for her telephone number. But Arlene is not delighted to hear from him, and he has to use a good deal of soothing charm before she agrees to have dinner with him at one of the better local restaurants.During dinner Ian again apologizes for his mistake, and he gives Arlene a diamond pendant as a token of his gratitude for her forgiving him. Ray arrives to interrupt an otherwise enjoyable evening with a business matter, and quietly reminds Arlene that Ian is his customer and she’s not to cut herself in with him. At home, Arlene examines the pendant and is convinced that it’s genuine. She hides it in her dresser drawer, unable to bring herself to show it to her mother.
    • LOL!! That's funny.  I actually thought he got a little better.

      Please register in order to view this content

    • Oh God, she's back? I thought those first scenes were well-intentioned but hysterical.
    • More Guiding Light 1976 At dinner the next evening, Grainger tells Rita he still can’t understand why she inherited from his father and he’s hired a lawyer to help him discover what her role was in his father’s death. Telling her he knows she lied to him, he again warns that he will destroy her reputation in this town. As Rita insists she’s done nothing wrong, Grainger, growing even more angry, lashes out, “Ill see you charged with m—”. Suddenly he clutches his head and collapses to the floor. As people rush to help him, Rita quickly slips out of the restaurant. Grainger is rushed to Cedars and treated for stroke. Rita is even more frightened and upset when it appears that he’s going to recover under the excellent treatment and care of Ed, who is assigned as his attending physician, and Peggy, who is a fine specialty nurse. Rita, drawn by an unseen force to his door, is further shaken when Peggy, seeing her, presses her into temporarily spelling her so she can take a short break. Ed is determined to come to Rita’s aid, as she did his, and brings a big steak for dinner to her apartment. But Rita is too unnerved and shaky to even be with Ed, and disappoints him by asking him to leave before dinner, explaining that she’s extremely tired. Ed knows it’s more than that, and is doubly determined to help her out of this depression, but when she starts to cry, he leaves her, as she wishes. Roger, remembering how Grainger fired him from the oil fields for- being a friend of Rita’s, is disappointed to learn that Grainger has come out of his coma and that Ed feels Grainger’s paralysis and inability to talk may just be temporary. Rita is pressed to assist Tim with a spinal tap on Grainger, and is frightened when her presence causes Malcolm’s pulse rate to rise rapidly. His doctors are unable to understand his rapid pulse changes. Rita tells Roger why Grainger is so hateful toward her. While she was his father’s special nurse, Malcolm made physical advances toward her and she fought him off. His father noticed her bruises~and instantly guessed his son had manhandled her. The old man then swore to her he’d never forgive Malcolm for this cruelty. Roger again warns Rita that nobody is to know about his connection with her and with the Graingers. He fears that if Peggy learns about it, she will leave him.  Ed continues to press his concern and support on Rita, and while it helps to a certain degree and she’s grateful, Rita can’t bring herself to tell him what the source of her worry is. Each day, as Grainger rallies a bit more, her fear and tension increase. Finally, Grainger is able to barely murmur, “Lie... father ... Rita,” to Peggy and manages to crudely letter “RITA S” on a pad of paper. Peggy, assuming that Rita has somehow managed to get Grainger to respond, summons her to the hospital in the hope that she can further stimulate him and thus hasten his recovery. But a major catastrophe, a train derailment, - has immobilized the entire area, and Cedars, as well as all local hospitals, is being overrun with patients. Even though she’s off duty, having served her full shift, Rita is pressed into distributing the patients’ medication. Peggy, explaining that Grainger has already had an accidental delay of medication, which could have caused a major setback, must receive his dosage exactly on schedule. The sight of Rita again agitates Grainger, but she finishes her extra duty and returns home, drained and oversensitive as well as exhausted. When the regular nurse does her usual check, she finds Grainger lying over the side of his bed, unconscious. She issues a “Code Blue” call for the emergency team, and Steve, there almost immediately, starts resuscitation and then gives adrenalin, right into the heart, but Grainger is dead. As soon as he hears, Ed rushes to Cedars in amazement. This is all impossible to him, as he saw Grainger’s recovery as a certainty. He immediately institutes an investigation to determine the cause of death. Roger, told by Peggy what has happened, notifies a stunned Rita just before Ed arrives to question her about everything she can remember about the last time she was in Grainger’s room. Rita, unable to understand what’s happening around her, breaks down in tears, crying that she could be responsible for his death. Ed comforts her, assuring her that he’s not blaming her, just trying to find out what happened.    
    • Carly, considering Robin's daughter as a possible daughter-in-law .... I think the technical term for it would be "plotz"! Or to put it another way, the top of her head would explode!  

      Please register in order to view this content

    • What AW stories do you think of as DOOLish? I mean AW, in a very positive way was KNOWN for its comedic elements. From Iris's maid, Vivian, to the naming of plants, to highjinks with Cass, Felicia, Wally & even Lily, plus remember Dee Evans & Tony the Tuna? In a way at one time DAYS had similar with Caliope & Eugene. 
    • Were those reasons to do with having younger children on set? Other shows seem to manage. The ageing up of the kids has been one of the mistakes the show has made.
    • I agree.  Lemay was supposed to start in early 88 and we saw some of the writing on the wall with character reference from the past.  Notably, the core families Frames, Cory, Matthews.  The stupid Reginald Love was wrapped up.  Not even a year later Mary was written out of the show along with Vince and the McKinnons who came and left .  The previous writers tried to introduce a new family that never aspired with the viewers.  1988 was focused on the 25th anniversary of show in 1989 and suspect why Lemay was asked to come back in 88.  Prior to 1988, the storylines were so DOOL stupid.
    • That's true. He may have ended up keeping her on a recurring basis, like Dr. Michaels on ATWT. I'm trying to remember if GL had a similar long-running therapist.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy