10 minutes ago, Vee said:

I am pretty sure he's older and it's the latter. I have been trying for years to track down the scenes where Luke tells Ethan or whoever the whole story of that ONS. I don't know exactly when they were so I can't even find a transcript on tvmegasite or wherever. I agree it's real murky timeline-wise, but it's nowhere near the idiocy they tried to pull with these recent insta-kids lol.

Sasha even regaled us with a story about how Holly ran off in her childhood to go run a con with David Vickers from OLTL, because of course she did.

I forgot about that. That was around the time GH let Tony Geary add in whatever he wanted so we got tales of Luke with prostitutes and that he'd been running out of Laura and Lucky for years to meet women. Good times.

Of course about David Vickers lol. Holly's had some of my favourite ridiculous stories, both onscreen and off, over the years. There was her and her lookalike sister or cousin that was a South American freedom fighter in a fake country. Her years long pregnancies. Her stint as a bioterrorist during the monkey virus (RIP Tony). Then she was somehow involved in one of the latter day Frank Smith plots. Not to mention how many times she's been kidnapped. She's really been through it lol.

8 minutes ago, AdelaideCate007 said:

Her stint as a bioterrorist during the monkey virus (RIP Tony).

I never forgot that, or forgave her for it lol. I wanted someone to bring up the monkey virus just once!

4 minutes ago, Vee said:

I never forgot that, or forgave her for it lol. I wanted someone to bring up the monkey virus just once!

Yes! She helped let Tony die and you mean to tell me Bobbie, Felicia, or Lucy never once brought that up to her over the years! Or Anna even!

Plus, wasn't she involved with whatever that mess was where Luke had been poisoned by polonium somehow? They had to trek around (with Laura at some point I think) looking for Jerry Jacks and a cure. It's been so absurd for years lol.

6 minutes ago, Vee said:

I never forgot that, or forgave her for it lol. I wanted someone to bring up the monkey virus just once!

For years I have thought Sean would have been the better person for that reveal, not Holly.

She spent the majority of her run not being a con artist, but they fixated on that part. Add to that Luke would not have cheated on Laura back then, especially during a time they were on the run.

Just now, AdelaideCate007 said:

Plus, wasn't she involved with whatever that mess was where Luke had been poisoned by polonium somehow? They had to trek around (with Laura at some point I think) looking for Jerry Jacks and a cure. It's been so absurd for years lol.

I don't remember the details. I thought she ran around with him trying to help for a bit. I know that's how Luke and Holly briefly ended up prowling around the abandoned Alden mansion in Corinth from Loving.

Someone should've come at Holly's throat over the virus, be it Anna, Bobbie or whoever. They let her off too lightly for that, likely because the show realized immediately they'd gone too far with Holly and tried to quickly move her into lighter jungle shenanigans the next time we saw her in 2006(?).

1 minute ago, AdelaideCate007 said:

Yes! She helped let Tony die and you mean to tell me Bobbie, Felicia, or Lucy never once brought that up to her over the years! Or Anna even!

Plus, wasn't she involved with whatever that mess was where Luke had been poisoned by polonium somehow? They had to trek around (with Laura at some point I think) looking for Jerry Jacks and a cure. It's been so absurd for years lol.

Is that the story where they ended up in Corinth in the Alden mansion?

Just now, titan1978 said:

Is that the story where they ended up in Corinth in the Alden mansion?

Jinx!

13 minutes ago, Vee said:

I don't remember the details. I thought she ran around with him trying to help for a bit. I know that's how Luke and Holly briefly ended up prowling around the abandoned Alden mansion in Corinth from Loving.

Someone should've come at Holly's throat over the virus, be it Anna, Bobbie or whoever. They let her off too lightly for that, likely because the show realized immediately they'd gone too far with Holly and tried to quickly move her into lighter jungle shenanigans the next time we saw her in 2006(?).

They definitely realised they went too far and backed off it pretty quickly. But someone really should have been allowed to call her out on that. It's crazy it happened and just nobody said anything and all the vets just treated her like they always did.

13 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Is that the story where they ended up in Corinth in the Alden mansion?

Yes that's the one. I think Laura was there too! I forgot it ended up there. Since you mentioned Sean before, I think that was the same story where Luke and Holly tracked down his daughter for some reason. Or maybe that was some other nonsense. I just remember them going to find her for some reason that's lost on me now.

Edited October 2Oct 2 by AdelaideCate007

5 minutes ago, AdelaideCate007 said:

Since you mentioned Sean before, I think that was the same story where Luke and Holly tracked down his daughter for some reason. Or maybe that was some other nonsense. I just remember them going to find her for some reason that's lost on me now.

No, that's the same one. John Reilly made an appearance along with Courtney Halverson(?) as Annie. I thought they were going to use her more at the time but they never did, she was decent. Reilly only said a few lines which I thought was because Sean was supposed to be deathly ill, but who knows. He seemed alert enough onscreen. This was all in 2013.

Edited October 2Oct 2 by Vee

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Been watching a lot of old GH and it got me thinking about the Era of Jill Farren Phelps and whether she did any good to the show in contrast to the many many bad. 

I did like The Text Message Killer story even if all the wrong characters got killed, and I really enjoyed The Black/White ball sweeps story. 

I was reading the interesting comments on Luke and Laura in the main thread.

I think the issue with Luke is that he never was a consistent character. When he started, he wasn't really that sleazy or get out evil. There were periods where Luke wasn't much of a character at all, where he was more of a cartoon, trying to imitiate the everyman leading men of old Hollywood movies from the 30s and 40s. I thought this was especially true from 1980-1984.

When Luke returned to the show in 1993, I could sympathize with Claire Labine not knowing how to treat the character, as there was barely a character there at all. I think she did a good job grounding Luke and giving him a character. I liked her version,  and Guza's attempt to darken him in 1996. But by 1998, the wheels fell off, and Luke being such an inconsistent cartoon for most of his run, coupled with bad writing post 98, really did the character in.

I think given the history of the show, Laura has had more of a consistent character than Luke has been, even though her character was a bit of a cartoon too from 1980-1984, trying to imitate the leading ladies from classic Hollywood movies of the 30s and 40s.

Edited October 14Oct 14 by Jdee43

 

18 hours ago, Jdee43 said:

I was reading the interesting comments on Luke and Laura in the main thread.

I think the issue with Luke is that he never was a consistent character. When he started, he wasn't really that sleazy or get out evil. There were periods where Luke wasn't much of a character at all, where he was more of a cartoon, trying to imitiate the everyman leading men of old Hollywood movies from the 30s and 40s. I thought this was especially true from 1980-1984.

When Luke returned to the show in 1993, I could sympathize with Claire Labine not knowing how to treat the character, as there was barely a character there at all. I think she did a good job grounding Luke and giving him a character. I liked her version,  and Guza's attempt to darken him in 1996. But by 1998, the wheels fell off, and Luke being such an inconsistent cartoon for most of his run, coupled with bad writing post 98, really did the character in.

I think given the history of the show, Laura has had more of a consistent character than Luke has been, even though her character was a bit of a cartoon too from 1980-1984, trying to imitate the leading ladies from classic Hollywood movies of the 30s and 40s.

I disagree. Tony imbued Luke with a lot of attributes that the writers built on, but Marland had a character there. His foundation is pretty rock solid. He was street smart, ambitious, clever, and used a lot of bluster and attitude to cover up his insecurities and childhood traumas. He wanted power so people would look up to him, he didn’t want to be the little kid from Elm street that had to compromise everything to survive. His love of Laura was rooted in also dreaming of a better life, and she had enough damage in her own life to be an “angel” that was attainable, even if he didn’t think he deserved her. I am not excusing her sexual assault or the show’s poor decision to make it into a seduction.

If you watch a lot of his original run you see clearly his arc- He and Bobbie have a complicated relationship that is often loving,  while also cynical and volatile. Even his turn into heroic stories is also rooted in the fact that Luke likes the attention he got. He wanted to be a big man in Port Charles, gets all the way to mayor, and it’s a hollow experience that still doesn’t make him whole. And then he gets another shot, because Laura is alive.

Labine plays out an older, wiser, and also more comfortable version of the original character. He is still iconoclastic, still wants a piece of the action, but the club is more than enough until he can get rid of Frank Smith permanently. Once that happens, he again becomes kind of aimless, and you could argue he stays involved with Sonny out of loyalty and also a desire to be in the action. At this time he has unique and important relationships with Laura, Sonny, Mike, Lucy, Lucky, Robin and Stone.

At first, this is the same Luke that Guza writes. But things unravel when Nikolas is revealed. And Luke cannot handle Laura being pulled away from him- his family, his son. And that she could keep it from him. And once again, his most prominent trait is an insecurity around vulnerability. And the final nail is when Lucky can no longer look at him the same way ever again, cementing a deep self loathing that settles deeper every year into the core of his personality until Geary quits the show.