34 minutes ago, victorlord75 said:

@Contessa Donatella-I think that is his name.

 

Yes, that's Tony Dow! He also has another ABC soap credit. He was the lead in the first attempt at a youth-oriented soap, NEVER TOO YOUNG. 

2 minutes ago, depboy said:

Tony Dow is indeed the actor who played Assistant DA Ross Jeanelle!

Howie wasn’t a suspect, Ray Girardin was actually off of the show by this time after not being able to negotiate a new deal with the show.

I am very grateful for the information.  Howie was such a dirt bag character.  The fact that I remember him 50 years later and no footage of him exists really says something.

5 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Yes, that's Tony Dow! He also has another ABC soap credit. He was the lead in the first attempt at a youth-oriented soap, NEVER TOO YOUNG. 

I never heard of "Never Too Young", but it sounded good.

My mother used to watch GH on Channel 6, WPVI Philadelphia.  I remember "Dark Shadows" coming on after GH, but I don't remember what they did with the slot after Dark Shadows got cancelled.  Today, WPVI Channel 6 never moved GH to the network time slot of 2 p.m. Eastern, it is still on at 3 p.m. there like it had been for many years.

20 minutes ago, victorlord75 said:

I am very grateful for the information.  Howie was such a dirt bag character.  The fact that I remember him 50 years later and no footage of him exists really says something.

I never heard of "Never Too Young", but it sounded good.

My mother used to watch GH on Channel 6, WPVI Philadelphia.  I remember "Dark Shadows" coming on after GH, but I don't remember what they did with the slot after Dark Shadows got cancelled.  Today, WPVI Channel 6 never moved GH to the network time slot of 2 p.m. Eastern, it is still on at 3 p.m. there like it had been for many years.

NEVER TOO YOUNG was not only a soap but wall to wall pop music. In the timeslot you're speaking of it debuted in Sept. 1965 & aired till sometime in 1966. When it went off the air, DARK SHADOWS came on in that timeslot! Here's its first episode ... Personally I think it was both good & a good idea. 

 

11 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

NEVER TOO YOUNG was not only a soap but wall to wall pop music. In the timeslot you're speaking of it debuted in Sept. 1965 & aired till sometime in 1966. When it went off the air, DARK SHADOWS came on in that timeslot! Here's its first episode ... Personally I think it was both good & a good idea. 

 

I enjoyed the clip of "Never Too Young" very much.  I saw in the end credits that Sybil Weinberger was the musical director of the show.  I think she also was for "Dark Shadows" for at least awhile.  I'm a weirdo like that.  I will read the end credits if I can!  Thanks for sharing.  I have learned so much from this thread in a very short time.

43 minutes ago, victorlord75 said:

I enjoyed the clip of "Never Too Young" very much.  I saw in the end credits that Sybil Weinberger was the musical director of the show.  I think she also was for "Dark Shadows" for at least awhile.  I'm a weirdo like that.  I will read the end credits if I can!  Thanks for sharing.  I have learned so much from this thread in a very short time.

One of the first things about me that was a bit different from some fans was that I always read the credits!!

On 6/11/2024 at 8:24 AM, Khan said:

Just one more reason why I needed a storyline that explained the source of all of Heather's problems (and no, I'm not talking about poisoned hips either, lol).  What happened in that girl's childhood to make her the way she was?  Like most characters created by the Pollocks on all their shows, it seems like Heather came in scheming from the very beginning without any real explanation as to why.

The one thing I know that was mentioned about Heather's backstory is that Heather's father apparently used to beat her (she told Joe this in 1981). I could see Alice turning a blind eye to that while also being hypercritical of Heather during her childhood. Alice also seemed to favor Susan over Heather as well.

On 6/12/2024 at 10:52 AM, Contessa Donatella said:

NEVER TOO YOUNG was not only a soap but wall to wall pop music. In the timeslot you're speaking of it debuted in Sept. 1965 & aired till sometime in 1966. When it went off the air, DARK SHADOWS came on in that timeslot! Here's its first episode ... Personally I think it was both good & a good idea. 

 

I had a quick look and the vide really seems to preface something like the Australian soap Paradise Beach (which also didn't last for very long but of course starred Ingo Rademacher)

*EDIT: I meant to say vibe not vide lol

Edited June 14, 20241 yr by Dion

26 minutes ago, Dion said:

I had a quick look and the vide really seems to preface something like the Australian soap Paradise Beach (which also didn't last for very long but of course starred Ingo Rademacher)

I think it was a soap that was before its time. But, a great idea! 

2 hours ago, Dion said:

The one thing I know that was mentioned about Heather's backstory is that Heather's father apparently used to beat her (she told Joe this in 1981). I could see Alice turning a blind eye to that while also being hypercritical of Heather during her childhood. Alice also seemed to favor Susan over Heather as well.

Ah, that kinda tracks with the backstory that I had made up in my head years ago to explain/rationalize Heather's behavior.

I figured that Alice's first husband (and Heather's biological dad) had walked out on them years before, and that Heather's stepfather was a drunk who had abused Heather sexually from the time she was a little girl.  Furthermore, I figured that Alice was a decent person at her core, but that she had felt overwhelmed by being left with a young daughter to raise and no money or support from her family.

In turn, because she was so busy ekeing out a living, Alice never had the time to give Heather the attention she really needed, turning Heather into a very needy child, who learned to "stretch the truth" if she wanted any attention from others. 

Also, Alice was always afraid of being left alone again, so when Heather, now a teenager, finally found the courage to tell her mother about the abuse, Alice called Heather a liar and believed the husband instead.  Even after Heather decided to leave home (by forging that recommendation letter that got her the job as Peter and Diana's nanny) and the stepfather ran off shortly thereafter with an underaged neighbor, Alice still believed that Heather was just a sick person who lived in a world of make believe rather than admit she let down her own child.

18 hours ago, Dion said:

The one thing I know that was mentioned about Heather's backstory is that Heather's father apparently used to beat her (she told Joe this in 1981). I could see Alice turning a blind eye to that while also being hypercritical of Heather during her childhood. Alice also seemed to favor Susan over Heather as well.

This detail being shared is a real find for me.  I have zero memory of the scene between Heather and Joe, but I am glad to now be aware of it.  

If I remember correctly, shortly before Alice was killed off, she was the one taking care of Jason, who was still very young?  I remember being upset when they killed the character of Alice off.  She had a splitting headache and was gone a very short time later.

Maybe the writers killed Alice off an an excuse to bring Jason around Alan and Monica more, but to this day, I view the very sudden way they got rid of Alice as a big mistake.

 

 

 

I have heard, but have not seen, the new GH character named "Gio", who is a prodigy with a violin.

In a Wikipedia article on actress Loanne Bishop, who played Rose Kelly, it says that she is a mezzo soprano and knows how to play a violin!

If Ms. Bishop is still acting, TPTB should consider bringing Rose Kelly in as one of Gio's former violin teachers that is as skilled with violin playing as she is making BLT's.

On 6/11/2024 at 4:39 PM, victorlord75 said:

My mother, who I've mentioned in earlier posts here always thought that Steve and Jessie should have become romantically involved

I vividly remember Rachel Ames describing them as the couple that should have been together, and never was during that great 35th anniversary special.

I recall reading on this site an interview with Jackie Smith from way back where they credit another writer I had never heard of with creating the Quartermaines (at least Alan), and helping the stories during the Monty/Marland.

I think there must have been a lot of creative input happening by the incoming team before they were credited. Which is something I have seen on GH since. The transition between Labine/Guza and Guza’s late 1997 return were all preceded by him not being credited but by the show being set up how he wanted it as HW. Possibly also when Monty came back, there are a couple of weeks of shows that are way more her style before her relaunch than the prior regime. And we saw it this year with Korte/Marland.

Edited June 15, 20241 yr by titan1978

Hey all! I’m getting close to completing the classic episode summaries that I have amassed, and I will be sharing 1975 soon.  But I also wanted to take this time to share that after the summaries, I intend to take time to work on my website, with the intension of being an archive of GH history.  If I drop out, don’t be concerned.

2 hours ago, depboy said:

after the summaries, I intend to take time to work on my website, with the intension of being an archive of GH history.  If I drop out, don’t be concerned.

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15 hours ago, depboy said:

Hey all! I’m getting close to completing the classic episode summaries that I have amassed, and I will be sharing 1975 soon.  But I also wanted to take this time to share that after the summaries, I intend to take time to work on my website, with the intension of being an archive of GH history.  If I drop out, don’t be concerned.

That sounds amazing! Thanks for everything you have done so far posted here. Those of us not old enough to experience the show back then are grateful for the new insights your research has given us!