LOL! Loved the way Shawn said "Yeah, I know whose fault it is; if he wasn't in rehab over in Philadelphia, I would BEAT his ass!"

Whoever's idea it was to fully shave RH's beard made a bad decision! Wish he could've kept it or at least some stubble. Hate the clean shaven look on him. Anyways, loved his scenes with KA today. Very well done!

ETA: WAIT, hold up! I typed that as I was watching the show, now I just saw the ending. Did he magically grow that stubble on the way to Frodd's house?! I swear that was not there when he was in that jail cell ;-O lol

How pathetic Dani's been left in the dark this whole time & still has no clue!!...I guess they're saving that drama for later. Should be good. I think Kelley Missal will do great

Edited August 6, 201114 yr by AllmyDaysatGH

LOL! Loved the way Shawn said "Yeah, I know whose fault it is; if he wasn't in rehab over in Philadelphia, I would BEAT his ass!"

Whoever's idea it was to fully shave RH's beard made a bad decision! Wish he could've kept it or at least some stubble. Hate the clean shaven look on him. Anyways, loved his scenes with KA today. Very well done!

ETA: WAIT, hold up! I typed that as I was watching the show, now I just saw the ending. Did he magically grow that stubble on the way to Frodd's house?! I swear that was not there when he was in that jail cell ;-O lol

How pathetic Dani's been left in the dark this whole time & still has no clue!!...I guess they're saving that drama for later. Should be good. I think Kelley Missal will do great

Frodd?

Dani........hmmm, get your earplugs ready. There's probably going to be a lotta Dan-Yellin.........

When that stuff originally aired, I honetly thought the show should have killed Todd off.

You're probably right about that.

The suicide attempt was so poorly done. He looked like he belly-flopped offcamera, and was fine and dandy in no time. Worst of all was the show used this as an opportunity to ignore the bad relationships he had with his kids and Viki and instead make them, especially Jack, into Todd groupies. This, Marty as Tori from Saved by the Bell, and the KAD disaster were all variations on no one knowing how to end the story.

2009 was the year the show tried to ignore the Tarty story as much as possible in order to push Todd/Tea and Todd the stud, and their miracle child. Blech.

Edited August 6, 201114 yr by CarlD2

If you've read other boards, people have been say all along that NuTodd does things Todd wouldn't do. Todd hasn't been written that great for a long time.

I will grant you this, and for a while today Iw as worried Todd wouldn't be upset that some guy got Starr pregnant. However I do wish SOMEONE would mention how heinous it was when Todd planned to give Victor Natalie's heart. I honestly am not sure ANYTHING NuTodd has done since then has been worse.

DNA results about to be read. Id love it if tests for both men came back as a match for Todd. I dont think they tested TSJ but they should

I haven't beenr eading spoilers since the cancelation happened, but I'd bet money they WILL both have Todd DNA.

Thats how Jane was able to fool Erica's family on AMC...she read ehr book

Three books you mean (sadly we can buy only one ) I actually liked the Starr book reveal, but it did bug me at the same time... Because I don't buy that ALL of those weird details Starr mentioned would be in any book Starr didn't write herself, particularly an unauthorised one (but then again Todd did randomly say that SHE picked a good pic of him, when I doubt Starr would have anything to do with an unauthorised bio)

Oh god there goes Viki defending Todd and using his abuse to justify his actions as she did for most of RH's run on the show before. Of course he was hurt, damaged and fractured so that explains him away

It annoys me too--particularly since RC was the one who wrote Vicki kicking Tina to the curb for trying to protect her own daughter... It'd be diff if Vicki was all forgiving, but... I was just waiting for her to say "yes he's almost allowed Natalie to die, one time orchestrating it, several times--but he's like a child." Sigh.

Holding 12+ people hostage with a bomb strapped to his chest (or so he led them to beleive), which caused a heart attack of a man, wasnt sociopathic? Killing Guy Armitage with no remorse wasnt sociopathic? Neither was punching his wife in the face and throwing her out in the cold naked? Stalking, terrorizing and attempting to rape Nora while she was blind? Being a serial rapist? Giving Jack away and telling Blair he was dead? Shooting RJ bc he was jealous Tea was with him? Really, RH's Todd was never a sociopath?

And don't forgetthe Heart of a Lord story I keep mentioning

Thanks. You're right and I admit, I liked this version of Todd at that point.

One of the few interesting things Higley did was try to give Todd remorse. I just hated how she did it (Execution storyline, though the male rape one was worse...)

I'm not the Todd history expert that some of you are, but I think a lot of this remorseful vs. apathetic Todd stuff may come down to RH's and TSJ's approaches to the role more than to the writing itself. RH always played Todd's anger with this on the verge of tears mania which conveyed hurt (and may have *looked* more remorseful than it actually was at times), but nonetheless, telegraphed a glimpse of humanity to the viewer. TSJ is not one to tip Todd's emotional hand a-tall as his sister would say. He is one to deadpan and if there are hints of sub-textual hurt or self-doubt in his choices, you more than likely have to go digging for them. His Todd armor is up and strong with the occasional outbursts like screaming someone's head off or kicking Cole's ass. TSJ's Todd's cool looks like (and may very well be at times) laziness that some fans complain about. I've said this before, but TSJ is Todd on reefer while RH is Todd on coke. And interestingly enough, TSJ's approach to the role for the past eight or so years now serves where it looks like this story is going.

That's spot on. I still say TSJ wasn't lazy (well, usually...) and that he found the only possible way to play some of the material he was given. When things started getting too crazy for RH's Todd, the actor would just leave (OK I exagerate, but I still think the Heart story was written partly cuz they knew RH was leaving...)

UGH.

McPain needs to shut his yap when it comes to loving and defending brothers. Viki shouldn't have to explain anything that idiot.

On the other hand when it comes to defending your sister, who you knew a lot longer, no less, and did a lot less crazy stuff... I mean, child molestation and rape aren't quite the same thing, and this is a touchy subject I prob shouldn't delve into--but Vicki was sexually abused, Todd wasn't (that I remember). Todd went on to rape--shouldn't this strike a larger chord in her than anything Tina did?

Edited August 6, 201114 yr by EricMontreal22

LOL! Loved the way Shawn said "Yeah, I know whose fault it is; if he wasn't in rehab over in Philadelphia, I would BEAT his ass!"

Whoever's idea it was to fully shave RH's beard made a bad decision! Wish he could've kept it or at least some stubble. Hate the clean shaven look on him. Anyways, loved his scenes with KA today. Very well done!

The ONLY time I've found RH remotely attractive, excepting maybe his very early Loving and OLTL days, was with the facial hair. Even if it did seem particularly nice that the place he was locked up in trimmed and maintained his beard so nicely (then again soaps have people coming back from comas with perfect new hairdos, etc)

The Heart of a Lord story made sense in that Todd was, if I remember correctly, trying to protect Jessica. It was an awful story but I can believe that anyone in the family would have sacrificed Natalie for Jessica. They see her as inferior to Jessica.

The story where he let Tess run wild and was fine with Natalie almost dying was a story where he only had the vilest and most selfish reasons for staying quiet, and he actually got a cheap thrill out of Jessica's pain, shown again in his glee at learning Ford had raped her.

Edited August 6, 201114 yr by CarlD2

While I do agree with that, I don't think Vicki should have ANY reason to have forgiven Todd for the Heart of a Lord story. I guess if she does see him, as we know "know" as a child, she could see it as him just working hard to protect Jess at all costs, but, still... (Again, particularly when she turned on Tina).

The Heart of a Lord story made sense in that Todd was, if I remember correctly, trying to protect Jessica. It was an awful story but I can believe that anyone in the family would have sacrificed Natalie for Jessica. They see her as inferior to Jessica.

He didnt do it to protect Jessica. It was to protect Blair. Mitch had her kidnapped and it was exchange, Blair for Natalie. Todd was hating on her big time when this happened bc she had recently dumped him and seemingly flirting around with Troy. I guess despite his negative feelings towards her, he couldnt let her as the mother of his child stay in Mitch's clutches, so he was willing to send Viki's daughter off to die instead.

Oh. I thought Jessica was in there somewhere.