I find it hard to believe that investors who don't want AMC without Lucci would readily go ahead with OLTL, which has no Lucci equivalent at all.

OLTL doesn't need Susan Lucci, it's ratings prove that. Their ratings and the fact that the majority of it's cast and crew agreed to do the move make it smart for investors. Plus the lack of a name that commands Lucci's salary is good for the long term. Not to mention OLTL's history of being under budget. AMC was also an expensive show and it was doing so poorly the last couple years. It was always more of an uphill battle.

This is just going Off ABC SID. variety Said AMC Is On Hold Will return in a few months

I find it hard to believe that investors who don't want AMC without Lucci would readily go ahead with OLTL, which has no Lucci equivalent at all.

I have to believe potential investors are looking at issues far beyond who's on what show. How is TOLN going to make a profit? Do they really think they can succeed with just advertiser support? How is PP going to produce any show when they haven't gotten union sign off yet? The soaps weren't financially viable even on television what is PP going to do to make them viable on the web? Etc... It's not about getting money just for AMC or OLTL, it's about finding capital for a whole new company.

Right, but I don't see why they would hinge SO much on Lucci. Over the last month, we've seen that the mainstream entertainment media is able to recognize AMC as more than just the show Erica Kane is on. Would the investors really be so turned off by her not participating that they don't want the show at all?

^^^ in response to the posts before marceline's, which kinda explains what I meant better than I could.

Edited November 11, 201114 yr by All My Shadows

From Walt willey FB

Yes, it's true...PP has put AMC on hold...don't know many of the details as they haven't come to me at all, but that's what I hear...so sorry folks! But it's not over yet!

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This is one post I read...I haven't vetted it so...Mags say that PP has put their plans for AMC on the backburner. A source tells them that AMC had been put on hold until a deal with SL is in place. They don't want to relaunch the show without her. SL's salary is the sticking point, though she is being offered the same amount she made on ABC. PP's higher ups were hopeful that AN could intervene with SL, but AN wasn't comfortable getting into SL's Business. SOD says they have also heard thay a high profile AMC Actor was close to a possible deal with PP but the deal fell apart at the 11th hour over salary demands. And AMCer says the OLTL cast has the benefit of knowing who their head writer & executive producer will be. That's still up in the air for AMC. The AMCer says that for them signing a four year comittment is a bigger risk (That's really strange since no OLTL cast members are saying they must sign for year Contracts). SOD says that while PP has slowed their plans for AMC, the deal isn't dead yet. An insider tells SOD that they are still looking for a HW & EP. The deal isn't dead yet. MA (Natalie) and the OLTLers who have signed up remain enthusiastic. MA says that she's sure everything will work out & come together & FV is working hard to make sure it does.

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Edited November 11, 201114 yr by John

I have to believe potential investors are looking at issues far beyond who's on what show. How is TOLN going to make a profit? Do they really think they can succeed with just advertiser support? How is PP going to produce any show when they haven't gotten union sign off yet? The soaps weren't financially viable even on television what is PP going to do to make them viable on the web? Etc... It's not about getting money just for AMC or OLTL, it's about finding capital for a whole new company.

IA. If PP felt they needed marquee names to sell this concept, I am sure they would have fought harder for Lucci. I didn't see any actors names on the few slides from that PP presentation just numbers.

Ugh, I'm tired of the rah rah "Hang in there! It's going to happen!!" bullshit. Let me know when you've worked out your union stuff and somebody writes a check. Mad Men comes back in January. I'm good.

This is one post I read...I haven't vetted it so...Mags say that PP has put their plans for AMC on the backburner. A source tells them that AMC had been put on hold until a deal with SL is in place. They don't want to relaunch the show without her. SL's salary is the sticking point, though she is being offered the same amount she made on ABC. PP's higher ups were hopeful that AN could intervene with SL, but AN wasn't comfortable getting into SL's Business. SOD says they have also heard thay a high profile AMC Actor was close to a possible deal with PP but the deal fell apart at the 11th hour over salary demands. And AMCer says the OLTL cast has the benefit of knowing who their head writer & executive producer will be. That's still up in the air for AMC. The AMCer says that for them signing a four year comittment is a bigger risk (That's really strange since no OLTL cast members are saying they must sign for year Contracts). SOD says that while PP has slowed their plans for AMC, the deal isn't dead yet. An insider tells SOD that they are still looking for a HW & EP. The deal isn't dead yet. MA (Natalie) and the OLTLers who have signed up remain enthusiastic. MA says that she's sure everything will work out & come together & FV is working hard to make sure it does.

If this is true, then at least PP is looking for a new EP. God knows JHC has done enough damage to AMC.

Ugh, I'm tired of the rah rah "Hang in there! It's going to happen!!" bullshit. Let me know when you've worked out your union stuff and somebody writes a check. Mad Men comes back in January. I'm good.

I am also tired of the mags and their bullshit "sources", None of them know [!@#$%^&*] so they need to feckin end it with the Lucci crap. Is she the reason TOLN still doesn't have the money for their network? Who gets the blame for the fact that PP still doesn't have the deals with the unions worked out. When January comes and goes and OLTL is not on TOLN is that also because of Lucci?

As for the EP and HW argument for AMC I call BS on that also. Broderick is writing for OLTL now and I thought last issue they were all claiming Tomlin was the new EP.PP has had MORE TIME to get a HW and EP in for AMC than they have for OLTL so I call BS in all of this.

Edited November 11, 201114 yr by JaneAusten

They said AMC was talking to GT about being EP for AMC not that it was final.

Rueters say actors talks are the hold up

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/11/us-allmychildren-idUSTRE7AA4ZZ20111111

Tonja Walker On FB Re AMC & PP

I hope they work it out soon. There are many great writers and Exec Producers. Michael Malone is a fabulous writer and did wonders for One Life. Ed Scott isn't at Y and R anymore, and John Conboy was great when I was at Capital. Jill Mitwell would be awesome if she chose to do it. How about promoting someone from One Life?

Rueters say actors talks are the hold up

http://www.reuters.c...E7AA4ZZ20111111

Oddly enough that just makes me proud of the actors.

If The current cast wont do it, AMC has 42 years of characters that can come home.

Edited November 11, 201114 yr by John

Every media outlet is regurgitating the same story.