I love you marceline, like...I really, really love you. But it BUGS ME SO MUCH when people automatically shoot down the "soaps on DVD" idea with the "it's too many episodes!" argument. Releasing soaps on DVD doesn't have to mean releasing every single episode! In the UK, Coronation Street released a very successful set of DVDs where they picked 8 episodes from each year to put in a set. As a matter of fact, the 90s sets were just released this past week, and I'm sure those will sell just as well as the 60s-80s sets.

For our soaps, they wouldn't even have to go all historical/chronological with it. They could do "The Best of Erica Kane" or a nice set of DAYS Christmas episodes. It's frustrating as hell that no one who can make this happens seems at all interested in making it happen.

LMAO! I love you too Sweetie. I really really love you but here's my issue with that approach: there have been so many times I have loved characters that I wasn't "supposed" to care about. Characters who for whatever reason got pushed to the side. (See Frankie and Natalia Hubbard.)

Those edited DVDs would no doubt decide certain characters, actors or storylines didn't warrant inclusion and that IMO is a spit in the face to those of us who loved those characters. It also plays into the hands of people like Frons who think that everyone wants to see skinny, white, straight, emotionally stunted, verbally abusive alpha males and their lobotomized harem.

If I were going to watch DVD's of OLTL I'd want to see Ian Armitage, Jacara Principal and Linda Soto again. On AMC I'd want to see Grace and Belinda Keifer, Adrian Sword and Tom and Livia's romance. Under your plan, what do you think the chances of that would be?

I know that I'm a hyper demanding bitch where soaps are concerned but it's been bad enough having the the last few years filtered through the sewer of Frons' brain, I hate the thought of what he would do if he could edit the last few decades.

Edited September 10, 201114 yr by marceline

LMAO! I love you too Sweetie. I really really love you but here's my issue with that approach: there have been so many times I have loved characters that I wasn't "supposed" to care about. Characters who for whatever reason got pushed to the side. For example Frankie and Natalia Hubbard. Those edited DVDs would no doubt decide certain characters, actors or storylines didn't warrant inclusion and that IMO is a spit in the face to those of us who loved those characters. It also plays into the hands of people like Frons who think that everyone wants to see skinny White, straight, emotionally stunted, verbally abusive alpha males and their lobotomized harem.

If I were going to watch DVD's of OLTL I'd want to see Ian Armitage, Jacara Principal and Linda Soto again. On AMC I'd want to see Grace and Belinda Keifer, Adrian Sword and Tom and Livia's romance. Under your plan, what do you think the chances of that would be?

I know that I'm a hyper demanding bitch where soaps are concerned but it's been bad enough having the the last few years filtered through the sewer of Frons' brain, I hate the thought of what he would do if he could edit the last few decades.

Nah you are a kitten...hehe...I've seen much worse......lol

What they should do is sell soap episodes/seasons of episodes on amazon. Like they do with other shows. It would be nicer to have episodes on TV yes but having eps on computer is better than none.

I do think that at the least, not having made some sort of commemorative DVD for ATWT, GL, etc, when soaps are canceled, was VERY shortsighted. I have no doubt they would have sold well enough to make P&G, or whoever, a nice little profit. Just such a missed opportunity.

Soaps on DVD is a hard process--I know overseas they've sold a few early vols of Sunset Beach but I think they stopped pretty early on, and there was, I believe a Best of B&B set. Of course there's the complete Dark Shadows, but that just ran five years (and is still a massive set) and has a huge cult following, so is a special case. I mean I would joing a subscription service, or something, to buy AMC or OLTL starting with whenever they started saving them to tape (1977 I believe)--a new volume every two or three months (which is how they initially sold Dark Shadows on VHS I seem to remember), but I know many wouldn't and it's not really a feasible solution.

But some sort of Best Of sets would make sense. I don't mean the compilations like we got on Video (as much as I love the All About Erica video, it often cuts the scenes just when I want to see more)--I'd want full episodes, but something like the equivalent of SoapNet's I Love Lucci marathon, sold on DVD, again I think would sell well enough, and would be welcome. Again, it might make more sense to make it a DVD on Demand system.

Ideally I'd love a set that showed one or two key episodes from each year that has been saved (and some of the earlier kinescopes), but even that seems a bit too much to hope for. When Agnes started her website, she did say they were looking into DVDs, but it seems nothing happened.

LMAO! I love you too Sweetie. I really really love you but here's my issue with that approach: there have been so many times I have loved characters that I wasn't "supposed" to care about. Characters who for whatever reason got pushed to the side. (See Frankie and Natalia Hubbard.)

Those edited DVDs would no doubt decide certain characters, actors or storylines didn't warrant inclusion and that IMO is a spit in the face to those of us who loved those characters. It also plays into the hands of people like Frons who think that everyone wants to see skinny, white, straight, emotionally stunted, verbally abusive alpha males and their lobotomized harem.

If I were going to watch DVD's of OLTL I'd want to see Ian Armitage, Jacara Principal and Linda Soto again. On AMC I'd want to see Grace and Belinda Keifer, Adrian Sword and Tom and Livia's romance. Under your plan, what do you think the chances of that would be?

I know that I'm a hyper demanding bitch where soaps are concerned but it's been bad enough having the the last few years filtered through the sewer of Frons' brain, I hate the thought of what he would do if he could edit the last few decades.

Oh NO NO NO. I know I should have made it clear from the get-go, but I'm talking full episodes. Not that "edited together" nonsense like they did for the Daytime's Greatest Weddings thing. No! Full episodes or nothing.

Now that I think about it, it probably would be hard to truly cover a good cross-section of a show's history with that plan, but still, I see it as better than nothing. At most, I think of the DVDs as a sort of commemorative thing to cover the longer-lasting characters/couples/storylines. When it comes to going episode by episode, my favor tends to go more towards a Hulu-style thing (I'm sure Hulu loves that people use them as the prototype), where there could be a massive amount of episodes at little cost. Of course there's YouTube, but we soap fans should not have to settle for VHSs that were made in 1993.

Marceline, you are officially a BAD SOAP FAN. Sorry.

"Never one to mince words?" Really? Because to me ES has always seemed like the word-mincing type. Other than her speaking out about Higley I can't recall her being particularly vocal about anything. I would describe Vicky Rowell or Cady McClain that way but not ES.

Whatever. As long as people start speaking the truth. ES already signed with PP so at least she's fairly safe from any ABC retribution. I guess they could take it out on "Viki." (Say hello to Llanview's newest lesbian!) Is Viki getting any real airtime or story now?

Word. Was that written by Jamey? And no Vicki hasn't had a key storyline since the out of character philandering of Charlie.

what topic is the article in?

http://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/42324-all-an-oral-history-of-the-american-soap-opera/

Maybe it should be reposted under a new subject line?

And I just realized the original post about soaps on DVD meant selling the new PP versions of these shows every few months in a collected DVD for those who can't or won't watch online, right? Hrmmm

And I just realized the original post about soaps on DVD meant selling the new PP versions of these shows every few months in a collected DVD for those who can't or won't watch online, right? Hrmmm

Whoaaaa.....it did lol I saw "soaps on DVD" and had to jump on in there without even reading what was being said! Well hell, it was time for me to make another empty plea anyway.

Ha, and I went completely with it, so... (I admit, I'd lap up classic episodes on DVD, I'd probably even shell out for soaps I never have been a big fan of...)

Marceline, you are officially a BAD SOAP FAN. Sorry.

To quote Oprah/Sophia from The Color Purple: "Fine wit' me."

And I thought you said you were done apologizing.

Edited September 10, 201114 yr by marceline

That was a sarcastic sorry. I guess it's true that Americans don't understand sarcasm...

Jesus Christ. Get a damn room, you two.

Oh RS, always trust you to clear the air.

I'd love it if the vault was opened and we'd be able to get old episodes. If Prospect Park would make their new episodes available via DVD, for those who either want to archive or don't have high speed internet that would be great. I'd pay for that so I wouldn't have to deal with advertising. In other fandoms, DVDs help promote interest and get new followers due to people passing a DVD to a friend.