B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles

[Maxim]

What the hell??? Who did this?!!! 

[Maxim]

We are finally trying to continue with 2003... as much as we hate it. I just know better is to come, so I push through. 

Macy just learned that Thorne fathered Darla's baby. The past few episodes have been so melodramatic... 

And yes, thank God I had the Diva Tv episodes, because the 2 episodes of the reveal are not on youtube. They sure like to skip culminations.

[AMCOLTLLover]

I miss me some of my Amber! She was so great on B&B/Y&R

But I still can’t believe what they did to her character on B&B back before she left the show and joined Y&R later.

Amber locks Bridget Forrester and Ridge Forrester in a mineshaft where they kiss. This was the most frustrating, annoying, disgusting and character destroying bs ever. But it did gave Clarke and Amber some hilarious scenes lol

Edited February 16 by AMCOLTLLover

[kalbir]

Recent talk in the Y&R Old Articles thread about Brenda Epperson run as Ashley has me thinking of a similar situation at B&B in that same era. Hunter Tylo pretty much replaced Joanna Johnson so I wonder if Ronn Moss had any issues working with HT around 1990 and 1991. Bill Bell saw that RM and HT connected on-screen so original Ridge/Taylor worked. AFAIK there was nothing in the soap press in the early 1990s re RM/HT working relationship.

[Soapysoap]

Interesting opening error in today’s episode 9406 in Finland. The error is not in US version as I checked the vault

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[EyeOnFashion]

Strange. I just checked the Australian playout and it was fine. 

[DRW50]

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[sheilaforever]

Is anyone having old soap magazines from the time of B&B doing the Lake Como remote?

There are zero cast credits for these episodes and some of the Italian faces looked familiar from other roles but I could not pinpoint them. Airdates: last week of October 1997

 

Same applies to Lauren and Sally's hialrious flight to Italy with various fun sidekick characters on the plane. NO cast credits. SOD or SOU might have had some of these guests as part of their comings&goings sections

 

If someone wants to check out those episodes: they start at #2657...

[Soapysoap]

I’m not sure if it’s allowed to sell here but I am selling these magazines and book. Send me private message if you’re interested! Otherwise I’ll take them to local flea market. We are at the point in our life with my partner that we move from Finland to Spain to start a new business there so as hard as this is I will not take any extra baggage with me. If you’re interested in these rare items feel free to message me! Thanks 🩷

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[cassadine1991]

Do we know how long they tape in advance?

[BoldKara]

Up to around 6 weeks.

[Anooj]

I wonder what all your opinions are on the 1997 storyline of Ridge being accused of shooting Grant?

 

I just got to the point where Ridge has confessed to it in order to protect Rick. I’ve actually found it a very entertaining storyline, but I knew coming into it that Rick was responsible, since at least the basic details of the show’s history have been spoiled to be me beforehand. But those of you who saw it when it originally aired, how well did the twist work for you? Who did you believe was responsible for the shooting before it was revealed as Rick? Were the mystery elements of it well constructed when you went into it blind?

A few other observations:

• The concurrent Sheila/James/Maggie storyline is more mixed in quality. 1996 has perhaps been my favorite year in terms of utilizing Sheila, but once the pregnancy happened in late 96, the trio have isolated themselves into a kind of show-within-a-show where they rarely interact with characters beyond their bubble, having the same repetitious conversations over and over again. Now there’s been a premature birth of Sheila’s baby, and one wonders if the writers themselves grew bored with the repetitiveness and wanted to get it all over with, and whether Curtis was meant to be a more long-term character that didn’t work out.
• The Thorne/Macy breakup in early 1997 was quite contrived and artificial. I do find Claudia to be a rather interesting character, but the show has utilized her rather poorly past her initial storyline, and it’s very strange she was used to break up Thorne/Macy without an actual romance with Thorne in the horizon (which I would have found quite welcome). Ridge/Taylor/Thorne has been pretty interesting so far, though.
• Eric/Stephanie have a confusing, badly defined relationship status throughout 1996. In late 95, they seemed to be reuniting, ending up in bed and everything. Eric’s house (where he lived with Sheila) was last seen in January or February of 1996, so he presumably lived with Stephanie now, which (I think?) the dialogue even confirmed once the pair got custody of Brooke’s kids. But we were never told if they were now a couple or if the reunion fizzled out or something. Now that the Stephanie/Eric/Lauren triangle has started up and Eric has proposed to the former, the show acts as though the 95 reunion was never a thing, and Eric again lives someplace else (in the very last episode I saw, Lauren is pensive about letting drunk Eric ”drive home” from Stephanie’s guest house). Why did the writers drop ball so badly here? Why this confusing series of non-explanations and retcons?

While all that sounds like a lot of complainining, I think 1996 and 1997 have overall been a large improvement over 1994 and some of 1995. I’d rate ’96 as 7/10 or 7,5/10 and ’97 (what I’ve seen so far) as maybe just a tad lower. The writing is not as good as 87-93, nor is there yet that delicious camp quality I remember from the 99-02 episodes, but the good stuff has outweighed the bad for me.

[Maxim]

Nothing I don't agree with. Amazing analysis.

[EyeOnFashion]

Can someone (with good bandwidth) grab these for the vault please? Each tile contains the full year of episodes. These are not screen-recordings and far superior quality to what is currently in the vault. Those titled “deleted scenes” are in fact the bonus scenes seen on international distribution (and were previously appearing on the CBS YouTube channel and CBS-dot-com). 

https://archive.org/search?query=creator:"daytime logoless" 

All 2025 eps to date (in full HD, no broadcast logo):  https://archive.org/details/@thebandthebarchives?sort=-addeddate

@ChickenNuggetz92 we need a cleanup of the vault (pretty please). All folders are duplicated, likely some sort of tech error perhaps. Thanks. 

Edited March 7 by boldau

[kalbir]

Sheila has been played out since 1998. She is Bradley's "break glass in case of emergency" character.

Edited March 14 by kalbir