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[Marquise]

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this is the collection, the last two episodes

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[j swift]

Thanks, it is not quite as titillating as I had built it up in my memory.  Ridge has such an oddly timed come-and-hither purr that it sounds like he is trying to seduce Storm and Stephanie. 

 

Did all of the guests come in speedos under their tuxedos? Because that is going to be uncomfortable in the drive home.  Kristen's dayglo swimsuit with high pony was iconically 80s.   I'm also amused at the detail that Stephanie wears a pantsuit to her own pool. 

 

RIdge's line that he couldn't help himself but have nonconsensual sex with his brother's girlfriend reminded me that most of these quasi-consent stories are derived from the fact that they took it from behind so they couldn't recognize their partner (see Y&Y Grace, Y&R Drucilla, and B&B Thomas). 

 

Most remarkable they used camera trickery to make that yard seem huge.

[Marquise]

this is the site https://www.videoland.com/series/1161/the-bold-classics/2382

they keep uploading daily i checked it, but you have to be registered to watch. I wonder is it posible to download it without the subtitles.

@sheilaforever it would be great if you can download it from there and shere it with us

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[Soaplovers]

When watching the earliewt episodes..i always forget brooke/ridge didnt officially meet till 50+ episodes into the show.

 

When watching these early episodes, do you think there are any clues to indicate brooke/ridge were gonna be major?  I recall as a small child, my mom watching the 1st episode when it debuted..and when she laid eyes on Brooke in those first few seconds she said 'I don't trust her...she looks like trouble'.

[Marquise]

i was sure they will be major becouse Brooke was so anxious to meet him. She read about him in the newspaper, had a major crash on him. She wanted to get closer to the rich Forrester family. BTW Bell always gave hints/indicators to major story line. Just watch the episodes from 1988 to see how Spectra comes in and the Angela's story. Bell father was great. The show then was golden!

Edited May 7, 2019 by Marquise

[BoldRestless]

Considering how trashy the show became, it's funny how chaste it is in the beginning. Caroline is explicitly a virgin, and Brooke, Donna, Katie, and Kristen aren't really getting it on either. Brooke even tells Donna to wait to have sex. Is this supposed to be before or after Donna had Marcus? 

[Franko]

I thought the pool portion was pretty hot. No so much the group dancing.

 

Oddly enough, the speedos were presented to the men by Ridge. It really adds to the missed potential of having him be a guy who'd [!@#$%^&*] anything that moves.

[Maxim]

My mum and I watched the first episodes yesterday. I would say that if today the show is 2/10, back then it was 8/10. I really love how they write suspence and every scene has some kind of conflict, but it's not cheap. I love it. 

I think there is. Brooke is always reading on the newspaper about Ridge and Caroline. And I think Brooke is Ridge's karma for doing horrible things to Caroline. He met his match.

[Marquise]

@BoldRestless

i wonder too when is supposed Donna have been pregnant with Marcus? this is another example of how nowerdays writter have no idea of the storyline in the 1980''s. Donna is even presented like some kind of virgine before Donna moved in with her boyfriend. Then in the 1988 story she is supposed to have graduated and about to go to college i think. When does Marcus fit in? 

BTW Broke even left her boyfriend Dave becouse she wanted a better future for herself. A policeman was not enough for her.

Edited May 8, 2019 by Marquise

[Marquise]

also when is supposed Bill jr. to be born? 

[sheilaforever]

Time-line wise, Donna had Marcus BEFORE we met her in 1987...

 

As for BIll, this was a major retcon. But not the first one with SPencer children. Both Karen and Bill Jr. were NEVER intended during these 1987/1988 episodes...

 

EDIT: Brooke's "romance" with Dave was one of the key reasons why I always stood with Stephanie and Taylor that Brooke cannot be trusted and is nothing but a calculating gold digger. Contrary to you guys I also felt very uneasy by Brooke and Donna folowing the papers and then showing up at the hospital to socialise with Caroline. Talk about creepy!

And while Bill Bell's talent is not to be disputed, it is clear that his wiring for most of the Logans except Brooke and Donnaleft a lot to be desired for. And we had those tideous episodes with a recap scene and the main scene (usually Ridge with Caroline and Stephanie or Thorne yapping abut it to another poor character) even in those days from time to time.

Edited May 9, 2019 by sheilaforever

[Soaplovers]

 

I remember Donna even saying to Brooke this was crazy..and asked why Brooke couldn't be happy with her life.

 

Episode 309 posted on the channel..where Donna told Brooke about the nude photos...and Brooke acting outraged..with Donna parading he4 body and going against the morals they were raised with lol. What happenes to this Brooke?

 

Donna in 87/88 was in college for journalism....so when i look at a lot of the stories that Brooke and Katie had...they should have been given to Donna such as the Brooke's bedroom story..working at Spencer Publications..etc.

 

I also think if they couldn't get the original actress back, they should of had Heather Tom play Donna instead of Katie.... and just had Katie be recurring.  You can tell by episode 309 that Bell didnt have interest in writing Katie.

[KMan101]

Interesting. It's pretty sad to see Donna virtually wasted. Katie's always been a non-entity. Not that they'd ever fire Tom, but I'd have killed Katie and kept Storm .... lol

Edited May 9, 2019 by KMan101

[Soaplovers]

 

Katie was this show's Peggy Brooks

[KMan101]

 

Ah, puts it in better perspective ... Bill never knew what to do with her either. I think he finds the idea of a character more interesting than the actual execution and he swiftly loses interest. He lost interest in Kristen fairly quick too, didn't he? You can see a lot of comparisons in casting on B&B to that of Y&R and how maybe he wanted to emulate some of them (Ashley/Kristen spring to mind, but I don't think Kristen was ever on par with Ashley but I haven't seen enough of OG Kristen yet to form an opinion)