Members chrisml Posted September 20, 2024 Members Share Posted September 20, 2024 I think Gottlieb's biggest faux pas was allowing Todd to become the "anti-hero" of the show. He should have been killed/writte off (much like Jake on AW), but soaps love their rapists. I don't watch any of the soaps now, so I don't know if that love for rapists still goes on. They created such a strong story with Marty's gang rape and then had to rewrite history (forgetting Todd had raped before) so they could turn Todd into what he became. Granted, it's not as bad as what Carlivati would do years later, but it's still icky and an insult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted September 21, 2024 Members Share Posted September 21, 2024 I am wading through the back half of July '91 and woof it's a lot. Anyone know when a) Loon Lake starts and b) when Malone's first credited day might be? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Franko Posted September 21, 2024 Members Share Posted September 21, 2024 Loon Lake begins July 23. Until proven otherwise, I'm considering August 5 to be Malone's first credited day. (Sorry, I know that doesn't help much.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted September 21, 2024 Members Share Posted September 21, 2024 (edited) Plenty helpful, thanks. I'm just wading through some of this wretched last of Rauch's writing team stuff. Edited September 21, 2024 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Franko Posted September 21, 2024 Members Share Posted September 21, 2024 And it is BLOATED! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted September 21, 2024 Members Share Posted September 21, 2024 (edited) The cast is what puts it over, really. Tonja is at her most unhinged, RSW and Laura Koffman are very weird to watch making out but admirably giving it their all, Elaine Princi is always committed and of course there's Erika. Even the Buchanan kids are doing their best with a dumb story. And there is some fun interplay amidst the inanity. Edited September 21, 2024 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Franko Posted September 21, 2024 Members Share Posted September 21, 2024 Yup, in spite of it all, the cast more or less makes it work. (I'll also admit to being a performances over composition kind of audience member.) I'm just looking forward to eventually getting to see the arrivals of Luna, Andrew and especially Blair (I think I got the order right). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted September 21, 2024 Members Share Posted September 21, 2024 (edited) Agreed. It's going to be exhilarating stuff to see the transformation. An insane moment of synergy: In the July 16 episode I am positive that is Grace Phillips in a deodorant ad around 23:40, a few months before she becomes Sarah Gordon. Wild also that they appeared to turn the original (Buchanan) Palace Hotel into the Buchanan mansion later on, unless I am very wrong. Edited September 21, 2024 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted September 22, 2024 Members Share Posted September 22, 2024 Good Lord, this is Fyvush Finkel maybe a year or two out from Picket Fences at the NYC diner with Tina and Cord. You can tell they were treading water for material in July '91 when half an episode is devoted to Karen Witter's bob makeover (masterminded by Penn Jillette!) and has a ton of narrative ellipses dissolve transitions. Kevin is awfully sprung for Stephanie who according to Twitter only first appeared almost exactly two months ago. And Robyn Griggs maybe a month before this. I wonder when they cut her - possibly in the fall, then she came back as part of the Carlo murder story? Ending an episode on Robyn Griggs singing "Words Get in the Way": Also a choice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AMCOLTLLover Posted September 22, 2024 Members Share Posted September 22, 2024 If u think turning rapists turning into romantic leads and heroes is worse then thank god u didn’t watched DAYS during the 2010‘s. They turned a serial killer into a romantic lead and heroe who was eating all the screen time lmao Rapists I could get behind it if it was well written like with Jack Deveraux from DAYS. But Todd from being a monster and a villain tos comedian and romantic lead was just…. Something lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted September 22, 2024 Members Share Posted September 22, 2024 Awww reunited for Eddie Alderson's wedding Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bright Eyes Posted September 22, 2024 Members Share Posted September 22, 2024 Thanks for posting. Is the guy between the DePaiva's from OLTL? I don't recognize him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Vee Posted September 22, 2024 Members Share Posted September 22, 2024 I am endlessly amused Nic Robuck evidently turned out to be Kristen's gay best friend IRL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dc11786 Posted September 22, 2024 Members Share Posted September 22, 2024 Craig Carlson is still credited in the August 9, 1991, episode on YouTube unless the episode credits were added in from another episode. Gottlieb is also not credited though she was reported as doing some behind the scenes work between May and July before her official start date. Raunch, who had previously quit, was suppose to stay on for two months until Linda Gottlieb was free, but he secured Santa Barbara and jumped ship. I know when I looked at this earlier in the year, Malone´s announcement was made in the same week as Mary Ryan Munisteri on Loving. I believe we were able to narrow down Munisteri´s start ot the second week of August. Malone´s is probably the same week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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