I Think We Have Forgotten To some degree This is all Frons

Yeah It Would have been cool If Lucci had Publically spoken out b4 but when Slezak did it i appaulad but was worried Frons would fire her so maybe thats why Lucci Didnt and I cant fault her

Its common knowledge that Frons didnt want lucci to move with AMC to LA so she probably thought ill stay under the radar

But Now Lucci Prolly thinks 3 months left, I dont care. Heres How I feel

Edited May 28, 201114 yr by John

Seriously? We're having this fight? *facepalm*

I think both Slezak and Lucci fought for their shows. I think they were doing it behind the scenes long before anybody ever heard about it. Honestly, neither one of them is the type to make a big public spectacle about being unhappy. When have either one of them done anything but be good soldiers. I think that for whatever reason, ES felt like she had to go public, I suspect out of sheer desperation. Neither one of these women is a Robin Strasser and thank goodness because that has done her no good at all, has it?

ES and SL are two different people working on two different shows who were dealing with two different situations. Trying to compare them or decide who cares "more" about their show is just a perfect example of Jamey's toxic asshattery becoming it's own Frankenstein monster. Jamey and others won't be happy unless Susan Lucci murders Brian Frons live on stage during the Daytime Emmys and even then they'll say she only did it to promote her book.

In some ways I think its actually jealousy that *gasp* Lucci actually has a career ahead of her and in addition to AMC while many of these others don't. And thats not a shot at Erika Slezak at all before someone reads something into that. I have as much respect for her as I do Susan Lucci. Some of the other bitter betties not so much.

I Think We Have Forgotten To some degree This is all Frons

Yeah It Would have been cool If Lucci had Publically spoken out b4 but when Slezak did it i appaulad but was worried Frons would fire her so maybe thats why Lucci Didnt and I cant fault her

Its common knowledge that Frons didnt want lucci to move with AMC to LA so she probably thought ill stay under the radar

But Now Lucci Prolly thinks 3 months left, I dont care. Heres How I feel

In some ways I think its actually jealousy that *gasp* Lucci actually has a career ahead of her and in addition to AMC while many of these others don't. And thats not a shot at Erika Slezak at all before someone reads something into that. I have as much respect for her as I do Susan Lucci. Some of the other bitter betties not so much.

I Think Its Gonna Be Hard For Some Of The Actors On AMC/OLTL Who Tried To Show Out & Treat Others Badly To Work Again. That Behavior Gets Around To Casting Directors

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Its common knowledge that Frons didnt want lucci to move with AMC to LA so she probably thought ill stay under the radar

But is that really common knowledge? If he seriously wanted Susan [!@#$%^&*] Lucci off the show he is far stupider or more soap-killing conniving than any of us give him credit for.

Edited May 28, 201114 yr by SFK

I don't understand why that B&B clip would upset anyone to the point where they would be happy if Joel McHale's other show was cancelled. Joel pokes fun at B&B more than any other soap since Passions ended. Yet he's had Ronn Moss and Kyle Lowder on the show, playing along with the mocking of some repetitive dialogue "Ridge" and "Rick" had that week. It's all in good fun. It has been for years. I'm actually shocked that The Soup hasn't had any clips from OLTL this year. They could've easily filled several "My Stories" segments with "so embarrassingly awful, they're funny" clips by BW, DAG and JPL alone in the last few months. The Soup is well-known for poking fun at every TV daypart, even the parts I love.

I think it's mostly just because a lot of comedians now are set only on smug, with the usual perma-smirks, that everything seems so petty, whether it is or not. That's one of the reasons why I don't really pay a lot of attention to Chelsea Handler, not because I feel OLTL is above criticism, but because that is her default mode, outside of being a Jennifer Aniston sycophant.

Edited May 28, 201114 yr by CarlD2

In some ways I think its actually jealousy that *gasp* Lucci actually has a career ahead of her and in addition to AMC while many of these others don't. And thats not a shot at Erika Slezak at all before someone reads something into that. I have as much respect for her as I do Susan Lucci. Some of the other bitter betties not so much.

I think it's simple resentment that all the attention is on Susan and consequently AMC. I think people are overlooking the fact that 1.) a lot of this press would've still been happening because of the book. The fact that the cancellations happened at the same time turned it into a Susan Lucci/AMC P.R. firestorm and have made her the de facto spokesperson for both shows and 2.) AMC is going off the air first. OLTL will get it's farewell press tour afterwards and they won't have to share it with Erica Kane. Just be patient (and hope they don't announce GH's cancellation in October ).

But is that really common knowledge? If he seriously wanted Susan [!@#$%^&*] Lucci off the show he is far stupider or more soap-killing conniving than any of us give him credit for.

Well They Cut Her salary B4 So I Think He Thought She wouldnt Leave NYC

I think it's simple resentment that all the attention is on Susan and consequently AMC. I think people are overlooking the fact that 1.) a lot of this press would've still been happening because of the book. The fact that the cancellations happened at the same time turned it into a Susan Lucci/AMC P.R. firestorm and have made her the de facto spokesperson for both shows and 2.) AMC is going off the air first. OLTL will get it's farewell press tour afterwards and they won't have to share it with Erica Kane. Just be patient (and hope they don't announce GH's cancellation in October ).

Most Likely GH Will Be Announced After Jan 2012 & Go Off In Sept 2012

I think it's simple resentment that all the attention is on Susan and consequently AMC. I think people are overlooking the fact that 1.) a lot of this press would've still been happening because of the book. The fact that the cancellations happened at the same time turned it into a Susan Lucci/AMC P.R. firestorm and have made her the de facto spokesperson for both shows and 2.) AMC is going off the air first. OLTL will get it's farewell press tour afterwards and they won't have to share it with Erica Kane. Just be patient (and hope they don't announce GH's cancellation in October ).

Oh I am not relishing in seeing the cancellation of another soap, but it would be entertaining to see Jamey explode over this because he was also the biggest Bob Guza/GH supporter out there.

Oh I am not relishing in seeing the cancellation of another soap, but it would be entertaining to see Jamey explode over this because he was also the biggest Bob Guza/GH supporter out there.

Jamey Likes The Mob But Has Said That He Understands why most fans dont and he hated the jake story.

I dont mind Guza under EP Wendy Riche Because she kept him in check but when he got that consulting producer credit it seemed he become the EP Than JFP did

Jamey Likes The Mob But Has Said That He Understands why most fans dont and he hated the jake story.

I dont mind Guza under EP Wendy Riche Because she kept him in check but when he got that consulting producer credit it seemed he become the EP Than JFP did

He hated the Jake story only because of Jason and Liz. And as a former fan of the show, I saw absolutely not one thing wrong with it. Soaps have killed off children many a time. And if is drives story good. Heck the kid wasn't an integral part of the canvas and was rarely seen. Where was Jamey when in one year Guza chose to kill off Alan, Emily, and Georgie 3 popular legacy characters, 2 young women with tons of story potential. He's never once called out Guzas blatant deconstruction of that show but that again is him who like OLTL has absolutely no idea what made that show what it was. KIlling off the Quartermaines, decimating most of the popular fan faves and couples on this show over the years, destroying the legacy of Luke and Laura, propping up Jason Morgan one of the most stoic unappealing character on that show as some martyr are all things that destroyed that show beyond recognition. Destroying the message of hope this show had at one time in return of turning GH into a playground for his mob fantasies. But yeah Guza like Carlavati is a great writer.

He hated the Jake story only because of Jason and Liz. And as a former fan of the show, I saw absolutely not one thing wrong with it. Soaps have killed off children many a time. And if is drives story good. Heck the kid wasn't an integral part of the canvas and was rarely seen. Where was Jamey when in one year Guza chose to kill off Alan, Emily, and Georgie 3 popular legacy characters, 2 young women with tons of story potential. He's never once called out Guzas blatant deconstruction of that show but that again is him who like OLTL has absolutely no idea what made that show what it was. KIlling off the Quartermaines, decimating most of the popular fan faves and couples on this show over the years, destroying the legacy of Luke and Laura, propping up Jason Morgan one of the most stoic unappealing character on that show as some martyr are all things that destroyed that show beyond recognition. Destroying the message of hope this show had at one time in return of turning GH into a playground for his mob fantasies. But yeah Guza like Carlavati is a great writer.

Jane Listen To The Podcasts again Jamey MANY TIMES Has Called GH Out For Getting Rid Of The Q's

Re: the silly Lucci vs. Slezak thing, simply put, people are just drawn to bad girls (always have been, always will be) and frankly, no one else in soaps could have Susan's career (just like no other talk show host will ever touch Oprah). It's no coincidence that Lisa and Rachel were the soap super stars that they were, characters who are remembered by people who haven't watched a soap in decades. The writing for Erica was so next level with that prototype, she just shot straight up like a rocket and eclipsed them. There were other daytime favorites after her like Tina and Gabrielle, but they were all in Erica's shadow. She set the standard. And look at Alexis with her primetime and international exposure. My mom once told me how when Alexis came on the scene, she and her friends at work quipped, "Uh oh, so I guess she's the next Erica." (Not the other way around no matter what Joan Collins would like to think. ) There's just something about that type of character and all of the work that Susan put into her career to meet the demand and capitalize off of the popularity of her AMC role just multiplied her fame. And it does take work. I remember reading an Anna Stuart interview where she said she would ponder on putting herself more out there, pursuing outside endeavors like Susan or Linda Dano, and she said she realized she just didn't have it in her.

What I want to know is why Erika has won so many Daytime Emmys while Susan hasn't won any? This was supposed to be her year! You can tell me the audience was saying "Susan" but it sounded like "boo" to me.

And can you tell me why they canceled Profit?

Is it true the Spice Girls are breaking up?

Edited May 28, 201114 yr by CarlD2

And can you tell me why they canceled Profit?

I hear it was because of AMC.