Well, I told you how.

Well, I told you how.

Huh? I don't get it at all, please explain.

Huh? I don't get it at all, please explain.

No one gets Sylph. So dont worry about it.

Mark, I was surprised you didn't stop by to comment on Y&R and B&B's recent ratings downfalls, complete with your charts and all!

Huh? I don't get it at all, please explain.

Um... I dunno. It can't be more clear than it already is. How is Jill exactly a mass-appeal character?! On what asteroid would that be?! In many ways, she is one of the most lethargic, same-y messes whose patheticness has plagued the show for three decades or whatever. Her big story is: I'm dysfunctional! And I can't keep away from that even when I've achieved something in life! Bla, bla, bla, la, la, la. She fights with Katherinen, then she briefly doesn't, then we're back there, then she's her daughter, then they still b!tch about each other.

You seem to be particularly attracted to a particular kind of messed-up-ness, like this one Jill exhibits or people throwing vodka glasses at mirrors etc. You are hypnotized by boredom-Jikky Jee.

A useless mess that went nowhere in thirty years, yet had a fair share of stories, all unhelped by a man-woman actress with the voice of a transvestite smoker.

Mark, I was surprised you didn't stop by to comment on Y&R and B&B's recent ratings downfalls, complete with your charts and all!

I am offended because I introduced the charts. Then my file that had the archives evaporated, I didn't have the time to make it again and MarkH introduced his own, going back to the 1950s.

That is all.

Edited March 13, 201114 yr by Sylph

And I'm glad that, in yet another typo of mine, Katherine Chancellor became Katherinen. Very fitting. Though I bet no one gets in and I don't give a [!@#$%^&*].

I'm not eager for a whodunit, though I am eager to be rid of Tucker. And it just FEELS like a setup for such a tale...Diane, Kay, Jill, all Newmans, all Abbotts ...EVERYONE has a motive. In the end, it'll be some British payola victim or something who actually dun it...

Likewise, DF!

I hope you weren't talking about me on your Twitter account.

Um... I dunno. It can't be more clear than it already is. How is Jill exactly a mass-appeal character?! On what asteroid would that be?! In many ways, she is one of the most lethargic, same-y messes whose patheticness has plagued the show for three decades or whatever. Her big story is: I'm dysfunctional! And I can't keep away from that even when I've achieved something in life! Bla, bla, bla, la, la, la. She fights with Katherinen, then she briefly doesn't, then we're back there, then she's her daughter, then they still b!tch about each other.

You seem to be particularly attracted to a particular kind of messed-up-ness, like this one Jill exhibits or people throwing vodka glasses at mirrors etc. You are hypnotized by boredom-Jikky Jee.

A useless mess that went nowhere in thirty years, yet had a fair share of stories, all unhelped by a man-woman actress with the voice of a transvestite smoker.

Um...what's all the attitude for? I asked a question because I legitimately wanted an answer.

The one thing I'll speak to is that, yes, I love characters like Katherine and Jill, their brand of dysfunction is what I love to watch because it's internal. I've never found either of them boring.

Love Jess Walton and that voice of hers.

PS: What the hell is Jikky Jee?

Um...what's all the attitude for? I asked a question because I legitimately wanted an answer.

The one thing I'll speak to is that, yes, I love characters like Katherine and Jill, their brand of dysfunction is what I love to watch because it's internal. I've never found either of them boring.

Love Jess Walton and that voice of hers.

PS: What the hell is Jikky Jee?

That's the way he is if you didn't notice by now. A very nasty poster/troll.

In a way I do wish they would get rid of Jill because lately she is the only reason I tune in at all.

In a way I do wish they would get rid of Jill because lately she is the only reason I tune in at all.

I have a feeling a lot would tune out if Jill left the show. She along with others IS Y&R.

Um...what's all the attitude for? I asked a question because I legitimately wanted an answer.

The one thing I'll speak to is that, yes, I love characters like Katherine and Jill, their brand of dysfunction is what I love to watch because it's internal. I've never found either of them boring.

Love Jess Walton and that voice of hers.

PS: What the hell is Jikky Jee?

There is no attitude. I just had to choose a way to make you ask yourself and tell me How is Jill (aka Jikky Jee) a mass-appeal character? When was she this superstar soap character everyone loves and can't get enough of? She has her fans, and that's it.

The one thing I'll speak to is that, yes, I love characters like Katherine and Jill, their brand of dysfunction is what I love to watch because it's internal. I've never found either of them boring.

That gets old. Fast. But people only realize it with a sizable delay. Soaps increasingly over the years tried to tell stories about messed up people when it would've been more effective to make it about normal people with difficulties. People who grown and change. Not bear the mark of inability to mature for half a century.

There is no attitude. I just had to choose a way to make you ask yourself and tell me How is Jill (aka Jikky Jee) a mass-appeal character? When was she this superstar soap character everyone loves and can't get enough of? She has her fans, and that's it.

I still don't get the Jikky Jee reference, is there some significance? I'm legitimately curious, it's over my head!

Jill is definitely NOT Erica Kane, not in that ballpark at all. And it's very valid to say she isn't a mass appeal character. In the context of Y&R, however, I feel that Jill is an integral part of the show and if the character wasn't there, the show would die a swifter death than it already is.

That gets old. Fast. But people only realize it with a sizable delay. Soaps increasingly over the years tried to tell stories about messed up people when it would've been more effective to make it about normal people with difficulties. People who grown and change. Not bear the mark of inability to mature for half a century.

My response to that is "Whose Normal?" The Katherine's and Jill's of the world exist and are functional and achieve and have families and do good things. But they are totally screwed up.

Everyone has their baggage and some people never get past themselves. I happen to like that.

I am offended because I introduced the charts. Then my file that had the archives evaporated, I didn't have the time to make it again and MarkH introduced his own, going back to the 1950s.

That is all.

I do remember your charts, Sylphy.

I just remember Mark being very persistent with them during Y&R's last big ratings decline in 2008.

Not a bash against either of you, I'm just surprised no one is doing them this time around, but then again, a lot of us have already given up on daytime.