Maggie isn't nearly as good and pure as the many think she is - she's just been neglected for so long that most don't see her as anything other than too moral for Victor. I don't think Vic will be that ruthless with her on his arm, however Maggie isn't the driven snow either and she's done a few things along the way that haven't lived up to her own high standards for others.

Toups, I agree with you - about 20 years ago. But not now. Victor isn't the evil force he was once upon a time, he's mellowed, he's got family, he's known loss, and he's closer to the end than the middle. Certain pairings that are fabulous now wouldn't have worked before, just as certain pairings that used to work in a different epoch don't work today.

See, i prefer my couples to shape and change eachother, nut just accept eachother as is. Victor is Maggie shows a different side of him, but not an out of character side. I like that, a lot. Esp after seeing him in relationships with Vivian and Nicole. Kate on the other hand is a perfect match for victor, on the opposite end of the spectrum that Maggie is. A Stefano/Kate/Victor/Maggie storyline would be amazing.

All good points. What I do like about Victor/Maggie is that their story is moving slowly. Whenever they eventually end up together, I am interested to see how they co-exist together, if they're able to live in each other's different world. It's just I'm a huge fan of Victor's when he's doing bad things, so I'm afraid we won't see that aspect of Victor anymore when he gets together with Maggie.

Maggie isn't nearly as good and pure as the many think she is - she's just been neglected for so long that most don't see her as anything other than too moral for Victor. I don't think Vic will be that ruthless with her on his arm, however Maggie isn't the driven snow either and she's done a few things along the way that haven't lived up to her own high standards for others.

Toups, I agree with you - about 20 years ago. But not now. Victor isn't the evil force he was once upon a time, he's mellowed, he's got family, he's known loss, and he's closer to the end than the middle. Certain pairings that are fabulous now wouldn't have worked before, just as certain pairings that used to work in a different epoch don't work today.

IA. Victor and Maggie only work now bc of the changes that have happened in their lives. It was a perfect oppurtunity for them to connect and get closer. I totally buy them. I dont care if Victor mellows bc I dont need to see him as a ruthless menace. He can be much more than that

Not true, she was fantastic when grace died.

It's subjective. It came off as annoying and not fantastic at all. Sweeney's best work IMO was The Vegas Wedding & the scenes where she calls off her wedding to Austin.

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All good points. What I do like about Victor/Maggie is that their story is moving slowly. Whenever they eventually end up together, I am interested to see how they co-exist together, if they're able to live in each other's different world. It's just I'm a huge fan of Victor's when he's doing bad things, so I'm afraid we won't see that aspect of Victor anymore when he gets together with Maggie.

I love Victor when he is ruthless, what i love about him and Maggie is it shows off his depth. It fully rounds him. The two of them, somehow, for me anyways, just fit. they work. And if this was 5 years ago? No way. But the story was somewhat organic and has gone so slowly that i buy it. I dont see them making him all happy go lucky and pleasent just because he is with Maggie, i see him being who he is and that being a constant issue in their relationship.

IA. Victor and Maggie only work now bc of the changes that have happened in their lives. It was a perfect oppurtunity for them to connect and get closer. I totally buy them. I dont care if Victor mellows bc I dont need to see him as a ruthless menace. He can be much more than that

Yes, exactly.

It's subjective. It came off as annoying and not fantastic at all. Sweeney's best work IMO was The Vegas Wedding & the scenes where she calls off her wedding to Austin.

LOL, that is her MOST over the top performance ever.

Its my fave too, actually. lol.

Agreed! The characterization for these six is wonderfully strong. Compare them to, say, Nathan -- who I do like, because I find Hapka charming and he seems like a nice young man and all -- or Stephanie or Daniel or Chloe and there's no contest. Some of it is just the accumulation of history, but the older characters are just drawn so much more three-dimensionally.

I agree with your statement about the 6 characters being drawn more 3-D but I think characters like Stephanie and Chloe have enough history to mine to become more 3-D. This is where acting ability comes into play because an actor can help fill in the blanks that the writers' leave. It seems like the performer and writer are a team... if one is faltering then the other can pick up the slack. However, if both are faltering then Houston we have a problem.

I just died laughing at Eric's spot on James impression..

I agree with your statement about the 6 characters being drawn more 3-D but I think characters like Stephanie and Chloe have enough history to mine to become more 3-D. This is where acting ability comes into play because an actor can help fill in the blanks that the writers' leave. It seems like the performer and writer are a team... if one is faltering then the other can pick up the slack. However, if both are faltering then Houston we have a problem.

I've seen glimpses of it in Stephanie, both from the writers and the actress, the past six months or so. This girl is just desperate to have a man, any man, be hers and only hers. After what she went through with Jeremy, Max, Phillip, and the rape, it makes sense that she would be clinging to Nathan like this. I just wish they'd be a bit more explicit about that stuff, and about how it's influenced by having grown up not knowing her dad. The writing for Stephanie in general has been all over the map since 2006, but they have a chance to unify things here. I hope they go the extra mile and really make it work.

Chloe is just... they've taken to writing her like such a cardboard heroine. Nadia's portrayal certainly doesn't add layers. I just wish we hadn't totally lost that wounded, defensive "Ghoul Girl" character entirely. I also loved the stuff when she and Lucas were getting together and she was totally not comfortable dealing with Allie. Obviously, she got used to it, but her enthusiasm about Parker is a far cry from that. I loved the idea that there was a woman in her 20s on this show who didn't desperately want to be a mother.

I love Victor when he is ruthless, what i love about him and Maggie is it shows off his depth. It fully rounds him. The two of them, somehow, for me anyways, just fit. they work. And if this was 5 years ago? No way. But the story was somewhat organic and has gone so slowly that i buy it. I dont see them making him all happy go lucky and pleasent just because he is with Maggie, i see him being who he is and that being a constant issue in their relationship.

Yes, exactly.

LOL, that is her MOST over the top performance ever.

Its my fave too, actually. lol.

Sami is such a OTT character so it fit her exellent.

Ok, I changed my mind. If anyone has any spoilers about my Anna theory, PM me.

Sweeney has always been a terrible cryer. That awful scrunch of the nose she does ugh.

BS! Allison Sweeney is an awesome cryer. That's the reason DAYS has her crying so damned much lol.

I have always loved Lauren Koslow (all the way back to her days on Y&R) and Kate but the last few weeks have elevated her in my mind. Lauren Koslow has really "gone there" with her performance, she is demonstrating the skill and talent she possesses with writing that has allowed her to flourish. The chemistry between Koslow and Joe Mascolo is undeniable. Bravo to both of them, I will be insulted as a viewer if they don't net Emmy pre-nominations at DAYS and frankly, they both should win.

I have to give credit to Peggy McKay for playing Caroline just as you describe: as if she's always been this way but everyone has been too wrapped up in themselves to notice. That happens in real life, you think you know someone and then they get pushed and it all changes. It's very creepy and very effective.

I agree Peggy is doing great and gldad that Caroline is getting more story. Btw, It's McCay not McKay.

Haven't really been liking the buildup to Will & Gabby but I really liked them today. That kiss I'm looking forward to more of them

Oh god, I cant stand Jack adn Jennifer. He isnt even around and Im reminded of why I hate them. Its the same old BS with these two

Oh god, I cant stand Jack adn Jennifer. He isnt even around and Im reminded of why I hate them. Its the same old BS with these two

so much word to this.

Oh god, I cant stand Jack adn Jennifer. He isnt even around and Im reminded of why I hate them. Its the same old BS with these two

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