WTF!? LOL!!!!!!

What, I'm just saying that they didn't give ATWT a chance. I thought they could get better with another writing team.

Edited November 19, 201015 yr by MoTheGreat

I think its a natural progression in the death of soaps. The audience has gotten smaller so all that's left are the hardcores. We've gone from Coke vs. Pepsi to Bloods vs Crips.

As for AMC improving, there's no hope for any of the ABC shows as long as Frons is in charge. I love AMC. It's "my" soap but its at the mercy of a man who I truly believe to be mentally ill, so I'm prepared for it die at any given moment.

Sadly, I have to agree. As long as Frons is in charge, we get temporary improvements and then the show starts sucking again.

I think Frons has always had some fantasy of making AMC his show. He trusts Guza to fulfill his unpleasant vision, and he doesn't care about OLTL, but AMC has been the direct hotline to his own personal favorites, like Budig, and Rylee. I remember the laughable changes he made to AMC when he first started, like the Fusion stuff and all those idiotic fantasies, and Juan Pablo. He will never really let AMC be anything but what he wants it to be.

I won't reiterate what used to make AMC so special because that was well covered in this thread last week, but Frons really just never got it. Imo, he really believes Rylee will suddenly become popular because they've been pushed on us so much. With the ratings of all 3 ABC soaps so low for so long, I can't figure out why he's still employed!

I'm more interested in why CBS isn't doing press releases for The Talk now. Have they? If so, it was for the best. Bragging about numbers against a 42 year old show seemed odd to me -- perhaps someone at CBS agreed.

Maybe because of the 18-49 . 485,000....the number continues to drop drastically......yes, they are making money with less and less viewers.....

If the aftermath of Zach's death and LH don't spike AMC's ratings it's in big trouble.

LH brought a spike to Days when she first appeared. Can she do it for AMC? Will fans turn in for the aftermath of Zach's death or will Zach fans quit watching?

Will AMC get the spike in Latino viewers they're hoping for?

As for the whole AMC vs OLTL , if AMC is on death's door for being in last place , then once AMC goes OLTL will be in last place and be next to die. Both shows need to get up in the middle of the pack.

I won't reiterate what used to make AMC so special because that was well covered in this thread last week, but Frons really just never got it. Imo, he really believes Rylee will suddenly become popular because they've been pushed on us so much. With the ratings of all 3 ABC soaps so low for so long, I can't figure out why he's still employed!

On a serious note, I don't think ABC really cares about their daytime line-up, other than "The View" and GH. Therefore, that is why Frons has been allowed to maintain his reign of terror with little or no consequences.

I can understand the loyalty to "The View" (like "The Talk", it is enormously more profitable than any of the ABC soaps), but I have never understood the adoration showered on GH, which seems to be surviving based on its past history of success.

Although ABC made a big point of announcing that Frank Valentini and Ron Carlivati have been given contract extensions (and thereby a de facto renewal for OLTL), couldn't these two people simply be moved to a different soap? Do they have to stay at OLTL?

I'm surprised that we haven't heard rumblings about expanding "Good Morning, America" to three hours, much like NBC has done with "Today". (A third hour of GMA is already available, but only on the ABC News website.) If that were to happen, ABC would most likely be forced to cede an hour of daytime to the affiliates, meaning that either AMC or OLTL would be on the chopping block. As has been mentioned, ABC could make more money airing a third hour of GMA on television than continuing to produce either AMC or OLTL.

I'm more interested in why CBS isn't doing press releases for The Talk now.

How often did CBS do press releases before? IIRC, this thread has always had regular spin reports from ABC but not CBS or NBC. If that's the case then CBS is just going back to business as usual.

What, I'm just staying that they didn't give ATWT a chance. I thought they could get better with another writing team.

They wouldnt be getting the 485,000 in 18-49 demos..no wonder CBS isnt crowing about The Talk.....lol...

I cant believe 3.66 million people watch the View. Those women are soo annoying. I cant last more than 5 minutes watching that show.

I cant believe 3.66 million people watch the View. Those women are soo annoying. I cant last more than 5 minutes watching that show.

People feel the same way about soaps.

So I guess we coined a new term today: "Ratings Rage"

Calm down people. No need to get nasty over silly ratings.

r we getting the ratings really soon hope days went up and OLTL

So I guess we coined a new term today: "Ratings Rage"

Calm down people. No need to get nasty over silly ratings.

Start banning some of these people....lol:lol:

SON has gotten so tame......lol

Glad The Talk is flopping..yet making money

And true...silly ratings for lame ass soaps left on the air....

So I guess we coined a new term today: "Ratings Rage"

Calm down people. No need to get nasty over silly ratings.

Actually, Toups this is Week 2 of the new soap "Ratings Rage" - I'm sure you remember last week's drama. The irony is that, in the near term, only B&B is uncertain. Y&R is safe for awhile, DAYS through 2013, ABC soaps good through Jan 12 (when SoapNet flips). I'm surprised we didn't have more of these meltdowns back in the day. Maybe we're suffering from Post-Soap Cancellation Street Syndrome?

Actually, Toups this is Week 2 of the new soap "Ratings Rage" - I'm sure you remember last week's drama. The irony is that, in the near term, only B&B is uncertain. Y&R is safe for awhile, DAYS through 2013, ABC soaps good through Jan 12 (when SoapNet flips). I'm surprised we didn't have more of these meltdowns back in the day. Maybe we're suffering from Post-Soap Cancellation Street Syndrome?

Poor Toups was bashed last week for not having ratings out on time.....

I am surprised Days was renewed....with those low awful ratings...oh well....no one watches soaps anymore..and the ratings reflect it....did watch some B&B today only to see Owen shirtless....and Brooke and Stephanie bonding....lol....Ive lost all interest in them....

ratings?