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There really wasn't..she was with Brian, but they were not lighting any sparks and he was a boring character, and because that dullard fell for Shannon she goes dark? But it did work for the character, which is odd, as GL tried it with Beth (who was off screen for years) and it never worked, and the character lost all connection to her past and became a plot point, the vixen, the bitch, the victim, the heroine..whoever was writing that day changed it. Beth's change should have been easier, raped by her step father, Lujack dying, being kidnapped and attacked by Blackburn, having amnesia and basically controlled by another man, then bacially being dumped by her Prince so he could come home for revenge...it should have made sense but didnt, which goes to show what day to day writing does for a character.

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That reminds me of Claire Ramsey circa 1985 and that, I think, was all from one writer. She went from sweet girl to bitch to psycho to brain damaged within the course of about a year until they shipped her off for brain rehab. When she resurfaced years later, everything seemed to have been forgotten except bitch mode and that seemed to work the best for her. 

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now this was funny…

watching a 1991 ‘murder she wrote’ with martha byrne as a young amis woman, at the end of the show, is revealed as the killer of the minister who knocked her. up — with a pitchfork!

a coincidence? i think not! hunt block was also in the episode. 

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In the P&G SoapClassics DVDs that Roger Newcomb curated, on the ATWT DVD, Disk 4, Villains & Vixens

1. Does anyone know what the dates are of any of the episodes?

2. Episode 2, When Villain Meets Vixen, who is this about?

Mark Pinter's McColl character may be getting married? Lisa as a brunette talking to some men, Not Meg Ryan, but a Betsy & Margaret Reed are talking at the side of this room ... 

3. Episode 4, Humiliation, who is this about?

As it opens I see Real Connor & then the Kasnoff brother that is with her, comes in. Connor was praying that Cal be able to walk again. Is that Samantha & is she blind? Is that Shawn Christian & the first Rosanna? In formal wear, Lucinda, Lisa, all of a sudden John Dixon up on an enormous screen ... 

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Episode 3 is about Lucinda and John. 

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AEn0k_tftYf2APXPC3D5-S-KPbO0vox5cFgQhYBUDisc 4: Villains and Vixens
Episode 1: John Dixon Takes a Fall.  (May 14, 1981)
Episode 2: The Return of James Stenbeck. (November 7, 1986)
Episode 3: When Villain Meets Vixen. (March 20, 1987)
Episode 4: Humiliation. (April 15, 1996)
Episode 5: The Trials of Barbara Ryan. (July 22, 2002)

Humiliation is about John humiliating Lisa at their engagement party.

 

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"other" Kasnoff is Mark.

Yes. Sam was blinded in a plane crash. In the same crash, Damian was presumed dead and Margo developed PTSD. The villainous Umberto Malzone (aka Diego Santana) was responsible for the crash and is masquerading as Sam's therapist. Emily somehow found out who he was, and helped him terrorize Sam. When Em threatens to turn on him, he rapes her.

Yes. that's OG Mike and OG Rosanna.

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