19 hours ago, DRW50 said:

@Mitch64 I forgot to say there's a line in this that felt like it was written just for you (the one where Lisa says Nancy would never talk about someone behind their back...but Lisa would).

I loved this line! 

1 hour ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

Who was the emergency recast for Scott when Breen was suddenly fired?  I was watching every day at that time, and I don't remember at all.  I do remember the later recast (Doug Wert), when Scott returned to Oakdale after a couple of years away.   

Actor Christopher Cass briefly took over for Breen while Breen became suddenly ill. (This is the infamous "mid-love scene" episodes). But Breen returned to continue the role after he recovered from his illness.  Then a month or two later Neal was murdered and a distraught Scott disappeared shortly afterward.   Breen was on-air until at least June of 1993.

6 hours ago, MarlandFan said:

I agree - the idea of Scott had amazing potential: (Conflicts with Tom, a growing attraction to Margo, friction with Lisa, potential villain of the show, etc.)  But from the get-go, Scott was written as a 30-something loser.  Yes, he had his law degree and a cultured upbringing, but he did nothing with them. No career, no girlfriend/fiancee/wife, a difficult relationship with his father.  Yes, some of those problems could be attributed to his lack of a mother and yes it created friction between him and Lisa -- but it wasn't interesting to watch.  He was a whiner/complainer and was absolutely aimless in life.  Joseph Breen had been a powerful actor on GL but he fizzled on ATWT.  His relationship with Lucinda had promise, but Breen and Hubbard had no chemistry - and the relationship ended as quickly as it began.  Then 1993 started and his relationship with Neal began -- and ended fast because of her murder.  And Breen was ill, then replaced. And then Marland died.  And Scott was written off (I don't even think Breen got a goodbye scene).  I actually enjoyed the second iteration of Scott played by Doug Wirt. He was a bit of a con-man, a self-centered playboy.  He had more edge -- which makes sense for a guy who led a privileged life and lived most of his life away at boarding school/university.  THAT version of Scott was interesting.

 

4 hours ago, Mitch64 said:

It too bad during the Dobsons time they had Shea faked his death and his kids...(would have to come up with a semi plausible explanation on how) and came back years later.  He arranges for a car crash with Lisa so she finds the teen age Chuckie..Lisa, not knowing it is her own kid, takes him under her wing and has him move in with her, to silently torture her (he was raised to hate her..) and meanwhile begins to romance Betsy (all part of Sheas plan to torture the Ellen and her family) but he starts to actually fall for her much to his father's dismay.  Meanwhile, Shea in disguise begins to romance Kim (everyone in town wants to know who Kim's mystery man is) and Bob is wary of this guy. Joyce finds out who he really is and blackmails him and they are a match made in hell for everyone in town.  The end result is that Lisa would find out who was who and then to actually save herself and  Kim (Bob saves Kim, and as he goes back to get Lisa hears a gunshot) does finally shoot and kill Shea. 

A lot of hand waving would have to go into this, but it would save us from Nick, Steve and Miranda and bring back a character who would have a complicated relationship with Lisa, Bob and Kim going forward. 

I agree and think Wert was sexy in the role. I think that Marland did just not write good villains (they were all cartoons if they were actual villains like James and Toni) and just made his characters (as I said time and time again) sometimes too politely boring...Sabrina should have been a slut who finds out she actaully has rich parents but still resents them, and Scott should have been a selfish man ho who eventually slightly reforms like his mama. But instead we get very very plain and dull Sabrina and a whiny Scott. 

That is a great idea about Chuckie not actually being dead and the revenge plot from Michael Shea. The Dobsons probably would have loved writing all that mess too. Just add in Cricket getting pregnant again and John having a death feud with Michael. 

I remember liking Scott at the time. When I have rewatched parts of that period in the last decade, I still do, but that's more down to Breen's charm and breeziness than what should have been most important (his ties to Lisa and Tom). It didn't help that Tom was in the middle of a very heavy story at this time with Margo's rape and HIV scare. 

I didn't care for Wert at the time, but if the show had been in a better place and he had stayed I might have felt more invested. At least this time around he was more directly involved with Lisa and Tom. I just wish they'd had better plans for him. Pining after Sam and then scheming to get Rosanna's money - none of it interested me. Anything with Rosanna tended to be a nonstarter for me.

1 hour ago, MarlandFan said:

Actor Christopher Cass briefly took over for Breen while Breen became suddenly ill. (This is the infamous "mid-love scene" episodes). But Breen returned to continue the role after he recovered from his illness.  Then a month or two later Neal was murdered and a distraught Scott disappeared shortly afterward.   Breen was on-air until at least June of 1993.

Cass mentioned how odd the timing was as he was appearing on Loving as a hallucination of Jack Forbes at the same time as he tempted on ATWT.

I didn't think Wert was the answer, but compared to Shawn Christian, he was bleepin' Olivier.

13 hours ago, P.J. said:

I didn't think Wert was the answer, but compared to Shawn Christian, he was bleepin' Olivier.

And..he wasn't ORANGE!!!!

For those who wanted to see the Joseph Breen to Christoper Cass transition during a love scene!

 

1 hour ago, TheyStartedOnSoaps said:

For those who wanted to see the Joseph Breen to Christoper Cass transition during a love scene!

 

Wow, I was watching at this time, but I don't remember this replacement at all.  Did this transition occur within one episode, as it appears in the video?  Or do these clips come from two different episodes?  

1 minute ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

Wow, I was watching at this time, but I don't remember this replacement at all.  Did this transition occur within one episode, as it appears in the video?  Or do these clips come from two different episodes?  

Ended one day with Breen, then picked up the next day with Cass exactly where Breen left off

2 hours ago, TheyStartedOnSoaps said:

For those who wanted to see the Joseph Breen to Christoper Cass transition during a love scene!

I remember the first time I saw this scene on YouTube some years ago... I kind of miss when soaps could just do this, and we'd accept it.

35 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

Wow, I was watching at this time, but I don't remember this replacement at all.  Did this transition occur within one episode, as it appears in the video?  Or do these clips come from two different episodes?  

2 different episodes. I know because I did an edit of it & you begin with 2 episodes, one day & then the next day.

Edited February 4, 20251 yr by Contessa Donatella

1 hour ago, Liberty City said:

I remember the first time I saw this scene on YouTube some years ago... I kind of miss when soaps could just do this, and we'd accept it.

Are you saying we no longer accept actor replacements on soap operas?  Or maybe I missed your point.   

6 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

Are you saying we no longer accept actor replacements on soap operas?

Not what I was stating at all. Just that it happened a bit more casually, sans announcement or "[T]he role of.." and then no ongoing social media fanfare about the recast.

1 hour ago, Liberty City said:

Not what I was stating at all. Just that it happened a bit more casually, sans announcement or "[T]he role of.." and then no ongoing social media fanfare about the recast.

But the "role of blah is now played by x" has existed for so long! Are you suggesting they stopped doing that voiceover at some point?

Sabrina had the makings of a bad seed daughter.  Remember she pretended to be Frannie in order to get with her boyfriend Seth...then she dumps Seth and marries another man.

And Claire Beck had played a more crazed and desperate character on AMC so she could have easily tapped into Sabrina's darker side.  For some reason, Marland refused to go all the way in making Sabrina the black sleep of the Hughes family.

1977 and 1979 episodes really highlighted Joyce's dark and demented side.  No wonder people in early 1980 were leery of Joyce...and if I recall...it turned out Joyce was faking the nice act and was exposed in 1981 before leaving town.

I don't know if this was posted already on the back pages or not but here is an episode of As The World Turns from March 3, 1995.