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You recycled them? You saved the planet but you lost your soul!!!

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I wish I had seen Loving back then. I would have loved to have watched the underdog soap and felt important and such, and also got to see some great actors and interesting characters. Loving seemed like such a tight knit show. By the time I started it was almost over.

I wonder how Pat Barry was as Isabelle. It's hard for me to imagine her and Celeste Holm or Augusta Dabney playing the same character. Frankly Pat always kind of annoyed me in her roles.

:lol::lol: And the thing is, I literally sat in front of that huge box and flipped through every single one of those magazines tearing out articles/pictures that I liked, but since the bulk of the magazines were from the late '90s/early '00s, they just didn't seem "special" enough to keep at the time. I think the oldest one we had was a '91/'92 SOD with Kristina Wagner on the cover and a small pic of Beverlee McKinsey, VI and KS (I kept this one as it was the oldest). It was a prelude to GL's big anniversary issue I'm assuming as there are a lot of GL articles inside. I kept some nice stuff though and I'm gonna take your lead and post some of it for others to enjoy.

From what I remember of PB, she was the most neurotic, unsettled Isabelle. She seemed kind of like Big Mama in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, you could buy that she was maybe a little off. Dabney and Holm never had that kind of quality, then again, Pat was playing the aftermath of Isabelle having her face burned off. I've mentioned this before, but I'll never forget sitting at the foot of my mother's bed as she watched and snarked that Isabelle's face in the portrait had changed yet again. She really didn't last long though.

Just Shawn, who she didn't seem to have much love for. I thought he was a character with potential actually but of course nothing came of it.

I'm having a hard time even remembering him in scenes with Bianca. He was mostly with Lily, right?

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Thanks for telling me more about Pat Barry's Isabelle. Isabelle went through so much yet scented candles did her in.

There were, what, three Isabelles?

And yeah you should post the stuff, we'd enjoy it. I have a lot of late 90s/early 00's soap stuff but not as much from earlier. I always enjoy stuff from before I was really watching soaps I guess because I can just assume everything then was fantastic.

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Three, four if you include Meg Mundy but I don't know if she even made it past the pilot movie. She'd aged by the time she was playing Gillian's grandmother on AMC, but back in the Loving movie she looked more like Ann's sister than her mother.

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I loved both Augusta and Celeste Holm (talk about Broadway royalty!) as Isabelle. I admit as a kid, I think I loved Loving being my "second soap" because it was SO little known. NOBODY I knew had heard of it, SOD barely included it in any of their articles by then, even on the network it aired where Cindi Rhineheart had a 20 minute soap recap segment on a Seattle talk show, I remember her bringing Loving up *once*. So as a 12 year old that felt kinda cool to me lol, I was kinda snobby too :P But I di dhonestly love it--and from 92 on I think ti just got better and better, overall.

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Re: the many Clays and Isabelles... I didn't catch much of Larkin as Clay, I know Eric liked him. I had a picture from an old SOU/M with Dinah Lee drunk/high and showing her tail with patrician Clay (Larkin) and super sleek Gwyn looking on, Christine Tudor looked so good in that pic. I think I tossed it. :( I wish I knew Carl back then, I would have sent him the hundred or so soap mags we'd accrued. Recycled them all before we moved.

I think one reason I liked Larkin as Clay (and I didn;'t really know him as Travis at that time) is I found him much more handsome--so not necesarily the best of reasons :blush:

Yes, a lot of those characters are the ones you hear about a little bit but I've never really seen them, not even short clips. Cindy, Nico, Cecily, Emily Ann, Julie, late 80s Charlie, David, Melanie, Craig, Brian, early Hayley, early Skye, early Jack/Barbara/Travis, etc. And of course, wasn't the founding of Enchantment (which I miss and needs to be back) in that period?

I alwyas found Benard so appealing and charming as Nico, it's hard to believe he's become one of my most hated actors and characters on soaps...

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Another World, 1981-83, after the ill-fated 90-minuted expansion. It became a completely different show under the pen of headwriter Corinne Jacker. She introduced an influx of new characters, including the strongest African-American presence I've ever seen on a show, led by Oscar-winner Howard Rollins. I really disliked her work, but I always thought it was a worthy topic of discussion ... yet I've never seen it talked about anywhere.

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Another World, 1981-83, after the ill-fated 90-minuted expansion. It became a completely different show under the pen of headwriter Corinne Jacker. She introduced an influx of new characters, including the strongest African-American presence I've ever seen on a show, led by Oscar-winner Howard Rollins. I really disliked her work, but I always thought it was a worthy topic of discussion ... yet I've never seen it talked about anywhere.

I guess it's because we know so little about that time, unless we were watching during that era. I have seen some of 1983 on and of 1980 but not any of Jacker. I think I did see a little of the stuff when the Todd son was causing trouble -- I guess that was Jacker?

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Thanks. I think I might have been wrong about the son being a Todd. Did Bob have a son?

How long did Henrietta last after Jacker left? From the little I've seen of Henrietta she was a very interesting actress.

Poor Julia Shearer. That character sort of summed up the folly of AW, in just randomly killing so many characters.

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DAYS

In the very early nineties we had Scott Banning played by Rick Hearst, a new Melissa and a grown up Sarah Horton. I can't believe they left nothing behind. That was the period with Roberta Leighton playing Shannon Sturges' mother, J.Eddie Peck and Michael Easton playing brothers.

Every soupercouple of the eighties was gone by that time and the show had no idea where to go. Rojohn and Isabella, Jack and Jennifer and Bo with Carly carried DAYS during that period.

Another forgotten DAYS era are the the years after Bill Bell left and before the supercouples took over in the mid-eighties.

Y&R

1980-84

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