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ALL: Saddest Soap Moments

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Days: D.J.'s death

There is another clip right after it with more reaction.

The crazy thing about the Tod Chandler death scene that was posted a few pages earlier is that he never was a major character, but he got one of the better endings. And as pointed out, nearly every character in the clip was gone not long after. Melissa, Marlena, Liz, Chris, Pete.

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I was kind of talking out of my backside about so many people being gone. I'm glad a loyal fan was there to say I was right :)

Thank you for posting this. Wow such strong and natural, powerful acting from Deirdre Hall, on a topic most soaps have the guts to cover. I didn't know Don/Marlena stuff was online. I will have to check this out soon. I know some people feel he was her best partner.

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I don't know what happened to Deidre Hall's acting style. She became a very poor actress, IMO, during her second stint at DAYS. It didn't matter that the material was sometimes very bad, but Hall seemed to have given up long ago.

She has more stage presence in the stuff I've seen of her first stint, though by no means did I ever consider her a great actress.

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I don't know what happened to Deidre Hall's acting style. She became a very poor actress, IMO, during her second stint at DAYS. It didn't matter that the material was sometimes very bad, but Hall seemed to have given up long ago.

She has more stage presence in the stuff I've seen of her first stint, though by no means did I ever consider her a great actress.

Except for the first week or two of the NuJohn stuff in 2008, she's been totally unwatchable for me since the Possession (and some of that is because it's camp). Some of it was the writing, but there is some absolutely painful stuff. I think some of it is also that she has had virtually no one to play off of, which I think is a necessity for her. She can't carry the load, but can contribute with help. Which existed in her first stint. This may be my opinion alone, though.

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For me a big part of GL died when they took Bridget and turned her into some kind of crazy shrew, with the heavy implication being that of course she would be that way because she was ugly and Dinah was a goddess. That was when GL made it clear that acting talent and unique beauty was no longer important.

Tacky, yes, that they'd go that route in portraying Bridget as the "ugly" underdog, but Wendy Moniz was a top-notch kick-ass talent. To this day, I'd choose her over the also wonderfully divine Gina Tognoni.

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Someone should have told Zimmer to keep her big mouth shut for a change. The show is more important then what she wanted. Of course I would have reunited them and then written them both off to save the cash and maybe create another set or two...and presto, no more worrying about what Zimmer wants and her constant yacking to the press. The show should have done the Days route and done just that. Zimmer had a lot of balls to throw her weight around like it was still 1985, I mean look at her now...shows werent dying to hire her.

Get real! Zimmer took like a dozen paycuts during the last ten years of her tenure at GL for the good of the show. She was a GL fan and wanted it to last and continue to thrive. Say what you want about Zimmer's so-called power and her recent weight gain, but that bitch has got talent and star power. The majority of stalwart GL fans loved her. She was the fricken star, whether she be a size 4 jumpin' in a fountain or a size 18 confessing her love to Josh while standing in front of the lighthouse. And B&B, Y&R, and OLTL have expressed interest since GL's demise so get your facts straight sweetheart ;) Viva la Reva!

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Give me Maureen Garrett's subtle, yet powerful acting style over Zimmer's thanksgiving ham routine any day...

Thanks to James Harmon Brown and Barbara Esensten, Maureen Garrett's Holly didn't have a snowball's chance in hell after that character-assassinating Nursery Rhyme Stalker story of '98-'99...

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I remember the DAYS Christmas episode in I believe 1993, when John returned Belle at the church as Billie sang "Oh Holy Night." It's one of those episodes that hit you harder as a viewer, because you knew Marlena's own daughter, Sami was the culprit and really, all of it was the result of the pain Sami felt at the hand of her mother's affair with John. It was all so uplifting yet depressing at the same time. Though I'll never be one to claim Drake Hogestyn can act, you could see in his eyes in that episode that while it was wonderful that Marlena was being reunited with her daughter, this truly wasn't the happy occassion it seemed on the surface. Powerful stuff & one of the few times I remember subtext being played in a Reilly episode on DAYS. But Deidre was one of the few who really got his writing & Drake was right there with her so they shined.

Agreed. That moment was so amazingly chilling and tear-jerking. Deidre's another of "my girls" who can bring it like nobody else, especially when the writing and subtext is so strong.

Daytime without Zimmer or Deidre is f*ckin' BORING!!! :)

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Thanks to James Harmon Brown and Barbara Esensten, Maureen Garrett's Holly didn't have a snowball's chance in hell after that character-assassinating Nursery Rhyme Stalker story of '98-'99...

I think Holly still had a lot of life in her as a character, though they just never tried in the latter years. Like a lot of things B&E gave us, I would have accepted the Nursery Rhyme Stalker crap being ignored, or at least certain parts of it. Garrett was such a pro throughout that whole thing, even when she publicly admitted to hating that story, she was classy about it.

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I don't know what happened to Deidre Hall's acting style. She became a very poor actress, IMO, during her second stint at DAYS. It didn't matter that the material was sometimes very bad, but Hall seemed to have given up long ago.

She has more stage presence in the stuff I've seen of her first stint, though by no means did I ever consider her a great actress.

I have to agree to some extent. But not entirely her second run. I think around 1998 when she negotiated taking more of a supporting role (she said at this point she wanted to see Kristian Alfonso be the next big star, hence the Princess Gina tale) so she could spend more time with her children, that's when her big dynamic performances wavered. But you can't deny her material from 1991-1997 was nothing short of brilliant. From her controversial affair with John while with Roman, to Marlena's struggle for sanity while slowly becoming taken over by the devil, to her intense love triangle with John and Kristen, Deidre Hall brought it like no other during the mid-90's and it's a shame that backstage politics got in the way of a worthy Emmy nomination for her work in 1996.

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Get real! Zimmer took like a dozen paycuts during the last ten years of her tenure at GL for the good of the show. She was a GL fan and wanted it to last and continue to thrive. Say what you want about Zimmer's so-called power and her recent weight gain, but that bitch has got talent and star power. The majority of stalwart GL fans loved her. She was the fricken star, whether she be a size 4 jumpin' in a fountain or a size 18 confessing her love to Josh while standing in front of the lighthouse. And B&B, Y&R, and OLTL have expressed interest since GL's demise so get your facts straight sweetheart ;) Viva la Reva!

She and her fans cannot get upset when people point out what the facts were: she bitched and complained to the press in '05 that she refused to take a paycut like her other GL stars, told the show to put up or shut up in firing her, and in the end she got her way.

GL would have survived without Zimmer. Wheeler should have had the balls to call her bluff.

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I think Holly still had a lot of life in her as a character, though they just never tried in the latter years. Like a lot of things B&E gave us, I would have accepted the Nursery Rhyme Stalker crap being ignored, or at least certain parts of it. Garrett was such a pro throughout that whole thing, even when she publicly admitted to hating that story, she was classy about it.

How sad that she basically gave up on all things GL after the whole Sebastian fiasco; how Holly would fall prey to that. So much for character growth and development! Oh well. Maybe Maureen Garrett can team up with Crystal Chappell as an actual lesbian on Chappell's faux-lesbian internet series!

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Now, now, I don't think Garrett is in this business of exploiting lonely lesbians for fame-whoring and financial tendencies...

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Leave famewhoring for finanical gain to Kimmer. I mean, she's gotta eat too.

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She and her fans cannot get upset when people point out what the facts were: she bitched and complained to the press in '05 that she refused to take a paycut like her other GL stars, told the show to put up or shut up in firing her, and in the end she got her way.

GL would have survived without Zimmer. Wheeler should have had the balls to call her bluff.

Gimme a break Big Bird. She was doing what any other high profile soap star would've done. I could see Eric Braeden easily doing the same thing. Zimmer stood up for the rights of actors, not just herself. She had to take a stand, and because of her *popularity*, her stance gained headlining press. Had she been Elizabeth Kiefer or Beth Chamberlin (oh wait, those broads had already accepted recurring by 2005), nobody would blink an eye. La Zimmer was fighting for actors' rights and she succeeded. God Bless Her and Viva La Reva!

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Leave famewhoring for finanical gain to Kimmer. I mean, she's gotta eat too.

Yawn. Zimmer's fat. And Rowell's unemployed. Deal with it. But one of these broads has had 3 soap operas interested in hiring them. Guess which one it is? The fat one!

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