I kind of wonder sometimes if Reid's popularity is the reason why he has so little to do now. If that annoyed someone at the show. It's a shame because I enjoyed watching him with the Hughes family, that was the type of old school writing I miss with ATWT. I don't care about Reid/Luke, so I don't have any real reason to watch any of that.

Well, Kreizman created Reid and established the character. Once he left, Reid's scenes with the Hughes and Katie soon stopped and he was put in the bubble with Luke. Based on her recent interviews, I definitely don't think that JP was thrilled with Reid's popularity.

The lack of racial diversity is really glaring. I've been watching all month and I don't think I've even seen a black character trotted out for a 30-second scene listening to a white character talk about their drama. Not that that would be an improvement, but are there no black actors or actresses in the cast whatsoever?

I don't believe Jessica is returning at all for the end. Do we know if Tamara Tunie was asked back?

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Tamara Tunie came back for one episode to usher Bonnie off the canvas a few months ago.

As far as how women and pregnancy are being depicted, is it possible that Lisa became such a legend in her day in part because some female viewers could appreciate on some level seeing Lisa using her pregnancy with Tom to trap Bob into a marriage that gave her what (she thought) she wanted in life? I could see how a character like that would be subversive in a way, at a time when unmarried women couldn't buy birth control and abortion was illegal, so women were the ones trapped as wives and mothers, in much the same way that Lisa successfully trapped a man into marriage. But in the 21st century, Vienna doesn't remind me of anyone I know, or would want to know. Women still don't have equal opportunities, but they have more promising options than faking a pregnancy

Bingo. There is a huge generational gap between the women who could find Lisa's behavior entertaining years ago and those younger women in the 18 to 49 women demo that P&G want to attract. Vienna who used to be a great character now comes off as a nut job. This is 2010 getting pregnant doesn't trap a man into marriage if they don't want to marry you. All it does is trap them into child support. And what woman would want Henry of all men so desperately? The story is ridiculous on so many levels. Don't get me started on these women on the soaps who don't use birth control or the morning after pill. It is the freaking 21st century for goodness sake.

It also occurs to me that the women who choose to watch Law & Order over the soaps, watch more diverse controversial television and TBS, USA, and TNT, do not quake in the face of the threatened boycotts from those conservative white right wing Christian groups.

Edited July 18, 201015 yr by Ann_SS

Oh, my...dare I ask if they at least had the sense to go the artificial insemination route, or was the extra sturm und drang that could be milked out of Jack cheating on Carly and getting Janet pregnant simply too much for the writers to pass up?

Liberty is the girl who is having problems with Parker mooning over Craig's son, right? I never in a million years would have guesses she was dying of leukemia less than 9 months ago. It's truly a miracle that she was able to make a full recovery in time for the obligatory summer teen story involving a never-before-mentioned, long-lost child.

Sigh...Carly at least had the balls to bring up AI and selective egg implantation to Janet. Jan (the sometime Catholic, which means she professes to not believe in divorce or abortion when it's convenient sturm und drang)balked at that suggestion. While Jack and Carly weren't officially "together" yet, he did love her and want to end his marriage. Jack felt obligated to stay in the marriage when Libby was first diagnosed, and did give Jan the ol' Snyder charm once before he found out about her ONS with Dusty. (in fact, Carly confronted Janet about the affair, and gave her an ultimatium to come clean to Jack. Jan ran home and bedded him.) While Jan still wanted to hold Jack to his word to impregnate her regardless of their marital status, Libby found out about their plan and told him she wouldn't accept bone marrow from any child they produced, so he put a kibosh on any more attempts. However, LaCiccone realized she was pregnant, and due to a sonogram, Jack and Jan assume he is the father. (I decline to believe anything less than a DNA test.)

Yes, Libby is mooning over Gabe and got her nose out of joint that Parker (Carly's son with Hal) is either too clingy or moving on. She went into remission three months after her diagnosis. Miracle, indeed.

Edited July 18, 201015 yr by P.J.

The thing for me is that all of this crap goes down, Jack repeatedly craps on his "relationship" with Carly, but she comes back EVERY SINGLE TIME. Have some self-respect, woman! In real life, a woman in Carly's position would be a flattened doormat.

My biggest issue with Goutman and Jean P. is that the women of Oakdale have NO self-respect or, in the case of Janet, false bravado. Vienna is rich, almost married a prince, yet she has lost her mind, gone insane, over Henry? The woman has become so sad, even evil, as to lie and say she lost the baby? I get that Jean Pissy is trying to tell us that Babs is too old to have kids; however, Vienna is pathetic and now belongs in a padded cell next to NutMeg who, also, was ruined by numerous men. I also see the same problem with Emily and Paul--Paul keeing the trap secret because, you know, all women cat fight and ruin well-planned methadone scemes! To this list I will add Molly, there were moments where she came off as almost crushing on the man who tried to kill her and I get this feeling that maybe she killed him to end those lusts once and for all--hurry, get another room set at the mental hospital.

Janey has taken her indy act a bit too far and put Dusty through hell which basically makes her look like a dope. Also, I hate that Carly look the fire money knowing it was wrong using her now default phrase 'I'm not a good person!' It didn't even seem as if she was really getting the money for Parker seeing as she told Janet 'she was going after the real prize and you can have Jack' or something to that effect.

Basically, I now fully understand why Suds Report never has anything good to say about ATWT aside from the actors. The cast is a bunch of pros but the stories keeps getting worse. I'm gonna puke during the Craig and Sierra reunion!

PS: Even Lucinda sees out of character these days. She is going over the top and reminds me of Vivian from Days.

If Branco doesn't mention something it can't be all bad.

PS: Even Lucinda sees out of character these days. She is going over the top and reminds me of Vivian from Days.

I don't care for the stories where Lucinda becomes too OTT (like that weird stuff where she supposedly had a child with Stenbeck), but I think Lucinda by nature is over the top. She's been too passive for ages now. With Martha as Lily I could sort of understand, because Martha was a very emotional actress, but Noelle Beck is so passive, it doesn't work if both she and Hubbard are low-key.

IA---this is classic Lucinda. Other than the fact it makes her look like an idiot if Blackie is clearly mob connected. Lucinda has meddled and done "what's best" for Lily since she was a teenager. She left a brain-damaged Holden in the hospital in NYC, and didn't tell anyone she knew he was alive. She supported Derek Mason's romance with Lily not knowing his father Niles was an SOB, which ended up getting Lily blown up.

I only wish I thought Lucinda's plan had a chance in hell of working.

So, PJ, you oughta be a huge Will fan now, huh? That was pretty epic, and it was the most emotion JLS has shown in years.

So, PJ, you oughta be a huge Will fan now, huh? That was pretty epic, and it was the most emotion JLS has shown in years.

Jesse is love! Floved those scenes. Please let Kim give Katie a kiddo speech!

So, PJ, you oughta be a huge Will fan now, huh? That was pretty epic, and it was the most emotion JLS has shown in years.

LOL...I just jumped over after tweeting about FLOVING Will ripping Katie a new piehole. I've always liked Jesse Sofer. I just hated the fact he was neutered by his relationship with Gwen.

I'm also loving Henry ripping Katie to shreds. And Kimmy finally seeing Katie for the selfish bitch she is. I've hated the Hughes' women's "friendship" with that lying tramp---knowing she falsely accused Chris of stalking her back in the day.

Color me happy---even with no Carjack on today.

Will? Kim? Yes, I can back that.

But Henry still needs to sit his ass down. Did it to himself.

Please tell me Iris has nothing to do with Barbara's disappearance. I just want to hear her say "Myyyy beeeautiful bbbbaaaaaby boyyyyyyy."

Edited July 19, 201015 yr by All My Shadows

LOL at the Henry and Will scenes at the spa. Will reaction to Henry and Barbara as a couple. I kept waiting for Will to say but you are gay Henry....lol. I thought at times Jesse was going to burst out laughing during his scenes with Trent....lol

I know its a short term stint but ATWTneeds to submit/nominate JLS and submit this eppy for male category. Jennifer Landon please submit yourself to beat Julie Berman ....lol

Edited July 19, 201015 yr by Ruxton Hills

LOL at the Henry and Will scenes at the spa. Will reaction to Henry and Barbara as a couple. I kept waiting for Will to say but you are gay Henry....lol. I thought at times Jesse was going to burst out laughing during his scenes with Trent....lol

When Henry started searching Katie's house, I wanted her to say, "I don't think Barbara could fit in Reid's underwear drawer, Henry, so don't waste your time."

Trent Dawson was amazing today!

I guess Chris doesn't realize how stupid he sounds defending Katie. Way to throw your own kin under the bus there Chris

Katie sounds idiotic too, everything Will said to Katie was spot on. Who was she to decide that Henry & Vienna should be together. She chose protecting Vienna over Henry who is supposed to be her best friend

Jesse is love! Floved those scenes. Please let Kim give Katie a kiddo speech!

LOL!! *dead*

Please tell me Iris has nothing to do with Barbara's disappearance. I just want to hear her say "Myyyy beeeautiful bbbbaaaaaby boyyyyyyy."

Shhhhhhh, quiet while I bask in Iris Dumbrowski Heaven!

***prays to the soap GGods that we get some Carly/Iris scenes***

Edited July 20, 201015 yr by juniorz1

Insecure much Molly? LOL

I'm not even a fan of this Lily and Holden, but even I can see they're gonna get back together and Molly be odd woman out