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Y&R : Mama Bear's Identity inside

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when Kimberlin declined they should've cast a big daytime name to play Sarah, Sheila's sister. This is just too stupid and how many dopplegangers can one show have? LML and MAB have used this waay too much. And two are running around at once!

Why can't the press call MAB out? Kimberlin Brown or not, this story could've been somwhat salvaged in a campy way. It's been a nightmare from day one. And how can Ryder and Daisy be Sheila's kids? What about Mary and Diana? Do they exist? Why aren't either of them involved or at least mentioned? Both of them knew SHeila was their mother so they should know Ryder and Daisy too.

And Sheila with four kids? Please! And don't even go there with these kids being Tom's. That's tooo ridiculous.

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damn. I have just read this thread and am so confused. Is Sarah Sheila or Sheila's sister? Why is Sheila's sister as crazy as Sheila? Is this a genetic disorder? Are the Wonder Twins Sheila's or Sarah's? WTF?

Either way, this is a HOT TRANNY MESS and reeks of a rewrite. I don't care what MAB says about "This is the way I planned it all along." Hot tranny CLUSTERFUCK.

And Kimberlin Brown could smell how much this story reeked the moment she was asked to come back. Heck, she went back to that crapfest B&B to play out the Sheila, Island Terrorist story. Before that, she was faffing about on Port Charles. And then there was that Y&R story which started off so promisingly (Sheila is mother figure to Lauren's gay, forgotten son, Scott!) before it went down the shitter. Even after all those dud SLs, she knew this one stunk royally.

Kimblerlin, an actress whose played utter sh*t onscreen for the right price ($750,000 for B&B: Terror Island), seems to have, as you've illustrated, hit the point where her artistic standards could not be compromised.

From what I've seen, which is very limited, it's a true clusterfuck of a storyline.

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when Kimberlin declined they should've cast a big daytime name to play Sarah, Sheila's sister.

dang, Kim Zimmer misses out on yet another role! Can you imagine her in a brunette wing pretending to be Sheila's sister? LOL

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when Kimberlin declined they should've cast a big daytime name to play Sarah, Sheila's sister. This is just too stupid and how many dopplegangers can one show have? LML and MAB have used this waay too much. And two are running around at once!

Totally agree.

Why can't the press call MAB out? Kimberlin Brown or not, this story could've been somwhat salvaged in a campy way. It's been a nightmare from day one. And how can Ryder and Daisy be Sheila's kids? What about Mary and Diana? Do they exist? Why aren't either of them involved or at least mentioned? Both of them knew SHeila was their mother so they should know Ryder and Daisy too.

And Sheila with four kids? Please! And don't even go there with these kids being Tom's. That's tooo ridiculous.

Mary hates Sheila. She went off to live with her father James Warwick. It's safe to assume that she cut off all contact with Sheila and disowned her as a mother.

As for Diana, we don't even know for sure if she was Sheila's kid. Sheila just happened to have a baby, and everyone just took her word for it that she was Sheila's child. For all we know, Sheila was using a stand-in child to get her licks in at Ridge and the Forresters.

The door remains open for Kimberlin Brown's return. Pheila can still be explained away as Sugar. Sheila could say she's been in hiding since she left in early 2006. This would create some angst with Ryder and Daisy and Sarah if they found out she led them to believe she had died.

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Mary hates Sheila. She went off to live with her father James Warwick. It's safe to assume that she cut off all contact with Sheila and disowned her as a mother.

As for Diana, we don't even know for sure if she was Sheila's kid. Sheila just happened to have a baby, and everyone just took her word for it that she was Sheila's child. For all we know, Sheila was using a stand-in child to get her licks in at Ridge and the Forresters.

if these are in fact Sheila's kids, it would have made much better sense to have just brought on Diana and Mary rather than creating brand new brats. What they did is only further convolute the mess thats been created

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if these are in fact Sheila's kids, it would have made much better sense to have just brought on Diana and Mary rather than creating brand new brats. What they did is only further convolute the mess thats been created

But Mary wouldn't have worked because she wasn't evil, she hated Sheila and wouldn't have been part of her or her aunt's evil plan. Diana could have worked but people would've whined about her SORASing. I would've written it that Jana turned out to be Diana.

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Maybe we are supposed to believe that Sheila gave birth to Ryder and Daisy in 2006 and they were SORASed. Or maybe it will turn out someone other than Tom Fisher is Kevin, Ryder, and Daisy's father.

Meanwhile, I think Roscoe Born will be popping up in newly-created flashbacks soon enough.

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But Mary wouldn't have worked because she wasn't evil, she hated Sheila and wouldn't have been part of her or her aunt's evil plan. Diana could have worked but people would've whined about her SORASing. I would've written it that Jana turned out to be Diana.

Erica was ill-defined at best and hasnt been seen in 8 years. ALOT can happen in that amount of time. She definetly wouldnt be well known to Y&R fans and the writers could shape her character however they wanted. Not that it would matter bc they've been writing alot of characters pretty bad. Im not advocating that Erica should have returned for this story but I would have found her inclusion more buyable than this rewrite with new mystery kids coming out of nowhere with a recreated pat with Tom which never existed

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Why can't the press call MAB out? Kimberlin Brown or not, this story could've been somwhat salvaged in a campy way. It's been a nightmare from day one. And how can Ryder and Daisy be Sheila's kids? What about Mary and Diana? Do they exist? Why aren't either of them involved or at least mentioned? Both of them knew SHeila was their mother so they should know Ryder and Daisy too.

Jamey Giddens at DC did trash the story and the dopplegangers in his recent ratings report...although he did have a "Gee, I really love Billy/Victoria and that Miller magic!!" post too, I guess as cover.

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Billy Miller is magical, but Amelia Heinle is not. That couple sucks.

Back on topic...

Wouldn't it have been wild if Shawn Garrett were the father of Sheila's twins and not Tom?

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Wouldn't it have been wild if Shawn Garrett were the father of Sheila's twins and not Tom?

You can't actually think Maria's brain would have room for a good explanation.

It's when you need explain the story in a million retcons when she really does her magic.

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They couldn't have Shaun involved because then we wouldn't be able to involve Kevin. <_<

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Maybe the Patty story is going to end soon now.

Well, that makes this plot twist more acceptable - except, not really. Back-to-back "double stories" is just as bad as running them concurrently.

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They couldn't have Shaun involved because then we wouldn't be able to involve Kevin. <_<

Not unless he's Kevin's bio father too.

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