I'm sure it hurts to end a 20 year friendship - but it may also be a welcome relief to LVP because it seemed to be the source of a lot of personal turmoil.

 

Give LVP 10 years - she won't be living in California full time. She will go back to England.

Beverly Hills was such a fail this season because both "big" storylines were centered around things that should've never been brought up on camera if they were genuinely such a big deal. The whole Munchausen thing started because Rinna felt compelled to admit, on camera, that she engaged in an off-camera conversation with someone who is not a castmember and she felt sh*tty about it. Firstly, her acting when she said that was off. I've seen her pull off more convincing performances as MP's Taylor and DAYS' Billie. It was obvious she was bringing it up on camera for a reason/storyline purposes. It reminded me of when they try to organically introduce a new castmember (i.e. OC's Tamra and her poor acting, inviting her new client, Heather Dubrow, into the group). 

 

Then, there was the "B" story of Eileen offended by Vanderpump's questioning. Been over this one already. Again, keep it off-camera or don't make a big deal of it if you don't want discussion of The Affair blown up. 

 

It's crappy because we all come from a soap opera fan base, so we *want* to root for Eileen and Rinna, but they were handed bad storylines. "I won't stick to your script," is Eileen's tagline. Clearly, she did. And it was a poorly written one. 

 

Meanwhile, each and every season, Kyle Richards comes off smelling like a rose. Even when she poorly acted bringing up Mohamed's children at the dinner table (again, a Tamra bad-acting moment, for reference).  And she got a free pass talking ish about Camille in season one. Who's the true numero uno at manipulating the audience....? 

 

 

Well said! I agree to all of this.

I'm sure it hurts to end a 20 year friendship - but it may also be a welcome relief to LVP because it seemed to be the source of a lot of personal turmoil.

 

Give LVP 10 years - she won't be living in California full time. She will go back to England.

Or the south of France.

 

She andJoan Collins could be neighbours. 

YYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

 

And THAT is how you check someone when they are coming for you when you are not sending for them.

 

Katie has been annoying the hell out of me during this reunion since she was so meek during the show. Is this how Lyidot is over on Melbourne? Fake? 

 

Go, Gizelle!!!!

 

LOVE.

Oh IDA. Katie may have come across a bit ditzy and quiet in the early episodes but by the end she was throwing shade, being confrontational and wasnt here for Gizelle or Robyn. What we are seeing at the reunion is consistent with her during filming. She is nice and cool if she doesnt have an issue with you but if she feels you are coming for her, then the claws come out. She felt those two kept prodding and poking at her over the race issue, which is why she felt she had to check them. The reunion, as it is for every series, is heightened emotions bc you finally get to see the bigger picture wiht the sh-t talking behind your back and in talking heads, so thats why people get turned up. Gizelle had alot to say about her, so Katie trying to come for her is kind of a natural response to that. I dont think its fake like some girls are to secure their job; she is genuinely bothered

See?  That might be why. I haven't seen a full episode since their trip to the gay bar due to work. LOL!!!

 

But I assumed that since she was boring up until that point that she was turned up to keep her job.

RHoBH

 

TT just did an intriguing column over the power dynamic through the 5 seasons of RHoBH and how it leads to this current season.

 

Thoughts? Because I found it fascinating.

This is so ironic. Mohammad had a convo with Lisa off camera that she went and repeated on camera thinking he would back her up and he didnt. Sound familiar?

RHoBH

 

TT just did an intriguing column over the power dynamic through the 5 seasons of RHoBH and how it leads to this current season.

 

Thoughts? Because I found it fascinating.

I found it fascinating...but easily disputable. TT definitely has a strong take on everything she writes about and the one downside of her site is that she runs it with an iron fist. If people don't agree with her then they are immediately called a litany of unflattering names that belittle their logic and bolster hers. 

 

I think she underestimates Kyle's role in a lot of things and gives LVP and LemonLyme too much credit for themselves. I also think she misjudges season 1 - LVP was the breakout star from the first episode, she was never grasping to be the centre of attention: she was always the focal point. She also misjudges LVP moving houses - TT says LVP needed to move into a "better house" - yet LVP's current home is substantially less expensive and smaller than her old house and not in a gated community. Finally, she definitely seems sympathetic to Dim Richards when it isn't warranted. 

RHoBH

 

TT just did an intriguing column over the power dynamic through the 5 seasons of RHoBH and how it leads to this current season.

 

Thoughts? Because I found it fascinating.

 

I found it fascinating...but easily disputable. TT definitely has a strong take on everything she writes about and the one downside of her site is that she runs it with an iron fist. If people don't agree with her then they are immediately called a litany of unflattering names that belittle their logic and bolster hers. 

 

I think she underestimates Kyle's role in a lot of things and gives LVP and LemonLyme too much credit for themselves. I also think she misjudges season 1 - LVP was the breakout star from the first episode, she was never grasping to be the centre of attention: she was always the focal point. She also misjudges LVP moving houses - TT says LVP needed to move into a "better house" - yet LVP's current home is substantially less expensive and smaller than her old house and not in a gated community. Finally, she definitely seems sympathetic to Dim Richards when it isn't warranted. 

I thought the article was interesting as well but I have the exact same issues that you have not only with the site but her opinions. You literally can not have a differing opinion than her without the insults that follow because she  disagrees.

Yes the first season was mainly about Kyle vs. Camille but LVP was undoubtedly the break out star. I also remember thinking LVP's new house is smaller than the last, I think Vanderpump actually stated as much.

RHoBH

 

TT just did an intriguing column over the power dynamic through the 5 seasons of RHoBH and how it leads to this current season.

 

Thoughts? Because I found it fascinating.

 

I found it fascinating...but easily disputable. TT definitely has a strong take on everything she writes about and the one downside of her site is that she runs it with an iron fist. If people don't agree with her then they are immediately called a litany of unflattering names that belittle their logic and bolster hers. 

 

I think she underestimates Kyle's role in a lot of things and gives LVP and LemonLyme too much credit for themselves. I also think she misjudges season 1 - LVP was the breakout star from the first episode, she was never grasping to be the centre of attention: she was always the focal point. She also misjudges LVP moving houses - TT says LVP needed to move into a "better house" - yet LVP's current home is substantially less expensive and smaller than her old house and not in a gated community. Finally, she definitely seems sympathetic to Dim Richards when it isn't warranted. 

I thought the article was interesting as well but I have the exact same issues that you have not only with the site but her opinions. You literally can not have a differing opinion than her without the insults that follow because she  disagrees.

Yes the first season was mainly about Kyle vs. Camille but LVP was undoubtedly the break out star. I also remember thinking LVP's new house is smaller than the last, I think Vanderpump actually stated as much.

 

TT is a bright lady and enjoy her site very much. I thought this was a good analysis with a lot of salient points. However, I would agree with you both on the tendency to belittle other opinions (I guess it's her site so she can do what she wants), and especially with your differing analyses regarding Season 1. I remeber before I had seen S1, DaytimeFan on this very thread urging me to watch it because Lisa Vanderpump was so fabulous in it. I definitely think that Production and Kyle probably had in mind before the show started that it might be centered around her as 'central heroine,' but very quickly LVP and Camille were the HWs that the audience couldn't get enough of watching. Kyle had that Smugness Factor (and outing her sister's alcoholism did not look good on her), and Camille was just... wow, lol. So LVP ended up being the HW much of the audience warmed to.

 

Even Andy Cohen said that as soon as they found LVP, Bravo knew they had found the show's lynchpin character.

 

Just talking about this made me realize what an awesome jewel Season 1 was. Sigh.

Edited April 16, 20169 yr by Cat

RHoBH

 

TT just did an intriguing column over the power dynamic through the 5 seasons of RHoBH and how it leads to this current season.

 

Thoughts? Because I found it fascinating.

 

I found it fascinating...but easily disputable. TT definitely has a strong take on everything she writes about and the one downside of her site is that she runs it with an iron fist. If people don't agree with her then they are immediately called a litany of unflattering names that belittle their logic and bolster hers. 

 

I think she underestimates Kyle's role in a lot of things and gives LVP and LemonLyme too much credit for themselves. I also think she misjudges season 1 - LVP was the breakout star from the first episode, she was never grasping to be the centre of attention: she was always the focal point. She also misjudges LVP moving houses - TT says LVP needed to move into a "better house" - yet LVP's current home is substantially less expensive and smaller than her old house and not in a gated community. Finally, she definitely seems sympathetic to Dim Richards when it isn't warranted. 

I thought the article was interesting as well but I have the exact same issues that you have not only with the site but her opinions. You literally can not have a differing opinion than her without the insults that follow because she  disagrees.

Yes the first season was mainly about Kyle vs. Camille but LVP was undoubtedly the break out star. I also remember thinking LVP's new house is smaller than the last, I think Vanderpump actually stated as much.

Exactly. LVP's old house sold for $19 million and was 17,000 square feet while her current house was purchased for $10 million and is 8,800 square feet - half the price and half the size, so TT misjudged that one. 

RHoBH

 

TT just did an intriguing column over the power dynamic through the 5 seasons of RHoBH and how it leads to this current season.

 

Thoughts? Because I found it fascinating.

 

I found it fascinating...but easily disputable. TT definitely has a strong take on everything she writes about and the one downside of her site is that she runs it with an iron fist. If people don't agree with her then they are immediately called a litany of unflattering names that belittle their logic and bolster hers. 

 

I think she underestimates Kyle's role in a lot of things and gives LVP and LemonLyme too much credit for themselves. I also think she misjudges season 1 - LVP was the breakout star from the first episode, she was never grasping to be the centre of attention: she was always the focal point. She also misjudges LVP moving houses - TT says LVP needed to move into a "better house" - yet LVP's current home is substantially less expensive and smaller than her old house and not in a gated community. Finally, she definitely seems sympathetic to Dim Richards when it isn't warranted. 

I thought the article was interesting as well but I have the exact same issues that you have not only with the site but her opinions. You literally can not have a differing opinion than her without the insults that follow because she  disagrees.

Yes the first season was mainly about Kyle vs. Camille but LVP was undoubtedly the break out star. I also remember thinking LVP's new house is smaller than the last, I think Vanderpump actually stated as much.

 

TT is a bright lady and enjoy her site very much. I thought this was a good analysis with a lot of salient points. However, I would agree with you both on the tendency to belittle other opinions (I guess it's her site so she can do what she wants), and especially with your differing analyses regarding Season 1. I remeber before I had seen S1, DaytimeFan on this very thread urging me to watch it because Lisa Vanderpump was so fabulous in it. I definitely think that Production and Kyle probably had in mind before the show started that it might be centered around her as 'central heroine,' but very quickly LVP and Camille were the HWs that the audience couldn't get enough of watching. Kyle had that Smugness Factor (and outing her sister's alcoholism did not look good on her), and Camille was just... wow, lol. So LVP ended up being the HW much of the audience warmed to.

 

Even Andy Cohen said that as soon as they found LVP, Bravo knew they had found the show's lynchpin character.

 

Just talking about this made me realize what an awesome jewel Season 1 was. Sigh.

In Andy's book Most Talkative he said that the production company and Bravo worked like crazy to convince LVP to sign on and that when she agreed they knew the show was set and that they "had found [their] Joan Collins"...now that has to irk Kyle, as many of us have always suspected that despite her role in the casting of the show (and as Camille said, Kyle has profit participation in the show...) she's never, ever, been the star of it. 

 

Despite TT's analysis that everything boils down to LVP vs. Yolanda, I think Kyle's role in the evolution (and devolution) of the show has mattered an awful lot as well. 

RHoBH

 

TT just did an intriguing column over the power dynamic through the 5 seasons of RHoBH and how it leads to this current season.

 

Thoughts? Because I found it fascinating.

 

I found it fascinating...but easily disputable. TT definitely has a strong take on everything she writes about and the one downside of her site is that she runs it with an iron fist. If people don't agree with her then they are immediately called a litany of unflattering names that belittle their logic and bolster hers. 

 

I think she underestimates Kyle's role in a lot of things and gives LVP and LemonLyme too much credit for themselves. I also think she misjudges season 1 - LVP was the breakout star from the first episode, she was never grasping to be the centre of attention: she was always the focal point. She also misjudges LVP moving houses - TT says LVP needed to move into a "better house" - yet LVP's current home is substantially less expensive and smaller than her old house and not in a gated community. Finally, she definitely seems sympathetic to Dim Richards when it isn't warranted. 

I thought the article was interesting as well but I have the exact same issues that you have not only with the site but her opinions. You literally can not have a differing opinion than her without the insults that follow because she  disagrees.

Yes the first season was mainly about Kyle vs. Camille but LVP was undoubtedly the break out star. I also remember thinking LVP's new house is smaller than the last, I think Vanderpump actually stated as much.

 

TT is a bright lady and enjoy her site very much. I thought this was a good analysis with a lot of salient points. However, I would agree with you both on the tendency to belittle other opinions (I guess it's her site so she can do what she wants), and especially with your differing analyses regarding Season 1. I remeber before I had seen S1, DaytimeFan on this very thread urging me to watch it because Lisa Vanderpump was so fabulous in it. I definitely think that Production and Kyle probably had in mind before the show started that it might be centered around her as 'central heroine,' but very quickly LVP and Camille were the HWs that the audience couldn't get enough of watching. Kyle had that Smugness Factor (and outing her sister's alcoholism did not look good on her), and Camille was just... wow, lol. So LVP ended up being the HW much of the audience warmed to.

 

Even Andy Cohen said that as soon as they found LVP, Bravo knew they had found the show's lynchpin character.

 

Just talking about this made me realize what an awesome jewel Season 1 was. Sigh.

 

In Andy's book Most Talkative he said that the production company and Bravo worked like crazy to convince LVP to sign on and that when she agreed they knew the show was set and that they "had found [their] Joan Collins"...now that has to irk Kyle, as many of us have always suspected that despite her role in the casting of the show (and as Camille said, Kyle has profit participation in the show...) she's never, ever, been the star of it. 

 

Despite TT's analysis that everything boils down to LVP vs. Yolanda, I think Kyle's role in the evolution (and devolution) of the show has mattered an awful lot as well. 

 

Absolutely. The backlash that Kyle got after S2 Reunion (when she and Adrienne decided to 'take down' LVP and she served up the "Bobby Fischer" comment) was real. All the seasons following that have been an attempt to make Poor Kyle appear the victim of LVP's unforgiving ways... or of Kim's crazy... or of Brandi's ratchetness. I assume to rebuild her rep with the viewing audience. Eventually, last season, Kyle got back on-side with both LVP and many viewers. TT never addressed that S2 Reunion in her blog piece when IMO it was a huge turning point. It solidified Brandi's S3 presence on the show, and it ushered out Taylor, Camille and, eventually, Adrienne, requiring new sets of HWs (including Yolanda) to come on the show.

Edited April 16, 20169 yr by Cat

RHoBH

 

TT just did an intriguing column over the power dynamic through the 5 seasons of RHoBH and how it leads to this current season.

 

Thoughts? Because I found it fascinating.

 

I found it fascinating...but easily disputable. TT definitely has a strong take on everything she writes about and the one downside of her site is that she runs it with an iron fist. If people don't agree with her then they are immediately called a litany of unflattering names that belittle their logic and bolster hers. 

 

I think she underestimates Kyle's role in a lot of things and gives LVP and LemonLyme too much credit for themselves. I also think she misjudges season 1 - LVP was the breakout star from the first episode, she was never grasping to be the centre of attention: she was always the focal point. She also misjudges LVP moving houses - TT says LVP needed to move into a "better house" - yet LVP's current home is substantially less expensive and smaller than her old house and not in a gated community. Finally, she definitely seems sympathetic to Dim Richards when it isn't warranted. 

I thought the article was interesting as well but I have the exact same issues that you have not only with the site but her opinions. You literally can not have a differing opinion than her without the insults that follow because she  disagrees.

Yes the first season was mainly about Kyle vs. Camille but LVP was undoubtedly the break out star. I also remember thinking LVP's new house is smaller than the last, I think Vanderpump actually stated as much.

 

TT is a bright lady and enjoy her site very much. I thought this was a good analysis with a lot of salient points. However, I would agree with you both on the tendency to belittle other opinions (I guess it's her site so she can do what she wants), and especially with your differing analyses regarding Season 1. I remeber before I had seen S1, DaytimeFan on this very thread urging me to watch it because Lisa Vanderpump was so fabulous in it. I definitely think that Production and Kyle probably had in mind before the show started that it might be centered around her as 'central heroine,' but very quickly LVP and Camille were the HWs that the audience couldn't get enough of watching. Kyle had that Smugness Factor (and outing her sister's alcoholism did not look good on her), and Camille was just... wow, lol. So LVP ended up being the HW much of the audience warmed to.

 

Even Andy Cohen said that as soon as they found LVP, Bravo knew they had found the show's lynchpin character.

 

Just talking about this made me realize what an awesome jewel Season 1 was. Sigh.

 

In Andy's book Most Talkative he said that the production company and Bravo worked like crazy to convince LVP to sign on and that when she agreed they knew the show was set and that they "had found [their] Joan Collins"...now that has to irk Kyle, as many of us have always suspected that despite her role in the casting of the show (and as Camille said, Kyle has profit participation in the show...) she's never, ever, been the star of it. 

 

Despite TT's analysis that everything boils down to LVP vs. Yolanda, I think Kyle's role in the evolution (and devolution) of the show has mattered an awful lot as well. 

 

Absolutely. The backlash that Kyle got after S2 Reunion (when she and Adrienne decided to 'take down' LVP and she served up the "Bobby Fischer" comment) was real. All the seasons following that have been an attempt to make Poor Kyle appear the victim of LVP's unforgiving ways... or of Kim's crazy... or of Brandi's ratchetness. I assume to rebuild her rep with the viewing audience. Eventually, last season, Kyle got back on-side with both LVP and many viewers. TT never addressed that S2 Reunion in her blog piece when IMO it was a huge turning point. It solidified Brandi's S3 presence on the show, and it ushered out Taylor, Camille and, eventually, Adrienne, requiring new sets of HWs (including Yolanda) to come on the show.

She also failed to mention that originally Lisa, Yolanda, and Brandi were a little clique which was probably the most the audience ever liked either of them.

RHoBH

 

TT just did an intriguing column over the power dynamic through the 5 seasons of RHoBH and how it leads to this current season.

 

Thoughts? Because I found it fascinating.

 

I found it fascinating...but easily disputable. TT definitely has a strong take on everything she writes about and the one downside of her site is that she runs it with an iron fist. If people don't agree with her then they are immediately called a litany of unflattering names that belittle their logic and bolster hers. 

 

I think she underestimates Kyle's role in a lot of things and gives LVP and LemonLyme too much credit for themselves. I also think she misjudges season 1 - LVP was the breakout star from the first episode, she was never grasping to be the centre of attention: she was always the focal point. She also misjudges LVP moving houses - TT says LVP needed to move into a "better house" - yet LVP's current home is substantially less expensive and smaller than her old house and not in a gated community. Finally, she definitely seems sympathetic to Dim Richards when it isn't warranted. 

I thought the article was interesting as well but I have the exact same issues that you have not only with the site but her opinions. You literally can not have a differing opinion than her without the insults that follow because she  disagrees.

Yes the first season was mainly about Kyle vs. Camille but LVP was undoubtedly the break out star. I also remember thinking LVP's new house is smaller than the last, I think Vanderpump actually stated as much.

 

TT is a bright lady and enjoy her site very much. I thought this was a good analysis with a lot of salient points. However, I would agree with you both on the tendency to belittle other opinions (I guess it's her site so she can do what she wants), and especially with your differing analyses regarding Season 1. I remeber before I had seen S1, DaytimeFan on this very thread urging me to watch it because Lisa Vanderpump was so fabulous in it. I definitely think that Production and Kyle probably had in mind before the show started that it might be centered around her as 'central heroine,' but very quickly LVP and Camille were the HWs that the audience couldn't get enough of watching. Kyle had that Smugness Factor (and outing her sister's alcoholism did not look good on her), and Camille was just... wow, lol. So LVP ended up being the HW much of the audience warmed to.

 

Even Andy Cohen said that as soon as they found LVP, Bravo knew they had found the show's lynchpin character.

 

Just talking about this made me realize what an awesome jewel Season 1 was. Sigh.

 

In Andy's book Most Talkative he said that the production company and Bravo worked like crazy to convince LVP to sign on and that when she agreed they knew the show was set and that they "had found [their] Joan Collins"...now that has to irk Kyle, as many of us have always suspected that despite her role in the casting of the show (and as Camille said, Kyle has profit participation in the show...) she's never, ever, been the star of it. 

 

Despite TT's analysis that everything boils down to LVP vs. Yolanda, I think Kyle's role in the evolution (and devolution) of the show has mattered an awful lot as well. 

 

Absolutely. The backlash that Kyle got after S2 Reunion (when she and Adrienne decided to 'take down' LVP and she served up the "Bobby Fischer" comment) was real. All the seasons following that have been an attempt to make Poor Kyle appear the victim of LVP's unforgiving ways... or of Kim's crazy... or of Brandi's ratchetness. I assume to rebuild her rep with the viewing audience. Eventually, last season, Kyle got back on-side with both LVP and many viewers. TT never addressed that S2 Reunion in her blog piece when IMO it was a huge turning point. It solidified Brandi's S3 presence on the show, and it ushered out Taylor, Camille and, eventually, Adrienne, requiring new sets of HWs (including Yolanda) to come on the show.

Yes - that reunion was ugly and it set the course for the ouster of Adrienne and Taylor. Adrienne slit her wrists with LVP (that lunch of theirs will go down as memorable in its awkwardness as Adrienne flailed like a dead fish before The Queen). Kyle got her first taste of backlash and she seems to have been acutely aware of it since, always trying to avoid being the one to visibly antagonize anyone.

Moore Manor update!

 

 

#hersmastercloset #mooremanor racks on racks on racks LOL still need to add the bling #sneakpeak

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