GH got a great deal of acclaim for their handling of AIDS, Monica's breast cancer, BJ's heart going to Maxie. AMC and OLTL for their stories involving homosexuality. And many other stories on soaps which have gotten awards and attention.

Are there any social issue stories on soaps you felt did not get enough praise? Or which you feel have been forgotten and people now don't remember how good the stories were?

I don't know if Robin Christopher would return.

I'd love to see Carrie Genzel again, but I guess that is even more unlikely.

There was a BI from Nelson Branco late last year about a certain former AMC actress who was asked to return and was actually considering it, until she flicked on the show and thought it was terrible. People thought that that was Robin Christopher.

There was a BI from Nelson Branco late last year about a certain former AMC actress who was asked to return and was actually considering it, until she flicked on the show and thought it was terrible. People thought that that was Robin Christopher.

I guess she didn't own a TV during her time on OLTL or GH.

The Doctors and Ryan's Hope especially must've had some memorable topical stories, but I can't recall any.

RYAN'S HOPE wasn't known for dealing with contemporary issues - although, Jillian's drug addiction after baby Edmund's death was noteworthy.

Bianca's initial coming-out (on AMC) was good; in retrospect, though, I really wished the show hadn't "gone there." Bianca Montgomery, as Erica's insecure, narcissistic daughter (who just happens to be a lesbian)? Good. Bianca Montgomery, as the patron saint for all lesbian rape victims everywhere? No thanks.

Another great Days social issue was the teen sex SL with Jennifer. It was one of the character's first major stories.

But I think this is a good thread.

I am really interested to read the pros of why social issues need to be done even today.

One reason is I think they can simply just be good storytelling. The appeal of soaps is they are daily--so I think it's compelling drama to see these characters you live with, dealing with issues you live with.

RYAN'S HOPE wasn't known for dealing with contemporary issues - although, Jillian's drug addiction after baby Edmund's death was noteworthy.

Bianca's initial coming-out (on AMC) was good; in retrospect, though, I really wished the show hadn't "gone there." Bianca Montgomery, as Erica's insecure, narcissistic daughter (who just happens to be a lesbian)? Good. Bianca Montgomery, as the patron saint for all lesbian rape victims everywhere? No thanks.

That is beyond inane logic and not what I'd expect from you Khan. Blame a storyline for what other, later writers did with a character later??

Santa Barbara: Eden's rape

Even when it was revealed her rapist was her gyno?

Well, even if it's not social issues, soaps can teach alot to people in how to react in a crisis. I learned the Heimlich maneuver and how to do a tracheotomy from watching Robert Colbert and Brenda Dickson! (I would KILL to see that episode again!) And from watching an episode of AMC, I learned that you can STILL call 911 on a land line even if there is no dial tone... as long as the phone is wired in.

Coronation Street did a great story involving a transexual character(Hayley).It was obviously thoroughly researched and told with restraint and respect.That character is still on the show today after more than a decade.

It was a story that could easily be told on a US soap(with minor tweaks).As well as being groundbreaking,the entertainment factor was there and it provided a change from the usual boy meets girl scenario.

For me it's more about people talking about past social issue stories on soaps which they liked. I don't disagree with you about the current soaps and their way of telling social issues. Whether they need to be done, who knows. I think there's a way to tell a good social issue story which also entertains, but these days that's too much to ask for.

It is absolutely still relevant. The reality is that we are all still dealing with particular social issues. They are a part of our lives in some capacity and when used appropiately can make many characters relatable. Of note, is that social issues are usually found at the heart of popular dramatic romances and even poignant drama. Take for example, "The Notebook," which was a love story but also brought to light the reality of Alzheimer's and the impact on a marriage. Look at what Steel Magnolias accomplished with Shelby's diabetes. The problem I think with soaps is when the social issues eclipse the characters and becomes the plot. That's when it's preachy. I think social issues work well when it's used as a circumstance of the character. Mary's rape and Lupus were great definitive stories for her character but now we are at the point where her rape and who raped her are the only interesting aspects of her character.

Coronation Street did a great story involving a transexual character(Hayley).It was obviously thoroughly researched and told with restraint and respect.That character is still on the show today after more than a decade.

It was a story that could easily be told on a US soap(with minor tweaks).As well as being groundbreaking,the entertainment factor was there and it provided a change from the usual boy meets girl scenario.

The Hayley story was even credit with making changes in the laws about transsexuals.

I think when you tell a story in a thoughtful manner and not to get a reaction you will have more success.

Tell you what: when you learn how to type legibly, EricMontreal22, we'll discuss my so-called "inane logic" all you want. In the meantime, however, that isn't what I said, and this discussion with you is over.

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I've never seen that story. I've heard a lot of good things about Isabella though.

What other attempts at social issues have they done since then? I know they did that autism story a few years ago.

If you're interested, here are the scenes where Isabella learns from Carly that she has pancreatic cancer.

Then 55 seconds in, Isabella tries to tell John.

Sheri Anderson also tried to further explore the effects of the abuse that Kimberly Brady suffered when she was a child from her Uncle Eric when the character developed Dissociative identity disorder (multiple personality disorder). Though I'm not certain if the story turned out the way it was supposed due to rewrites resulting from the departures of Charles Shaughnessy and Patsy Pease.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to another forum, but there is a somewhat recent discussion thread on the DAYS Sony forum where fans examine closely the DID storyline and tried to figure out where Sheri was originally heading with it and how it was going to affect all the characters involved.

Sami struggled with bulimia and rape during JER's first solo head writing stint.

Thanks. I've never really wanted to watch the Kim stuff, because of what Patsy went through in real life, but I will try. The Isabella stuff looks good. Do you think they should have killed her off?

It's easy to forget sometimes just how long and slow Sami's descent into being "evil" was. JER paced that very well. That's why I'm not as bothered by Sami being a bit more generic heroine, with a slight edge. I think this is what she would have been if she hadn't been so traumatized for so long.

I think it says a lot that we talk about "social issue stories" instead of STORIES. The people putting together these shows shouldn't be differentiating between "regular stories" and "social issues" -- they should be tapping into real life, whether for base emotions in outrageous situations or for true circumstances such as illness, class conflict, sexual identity, whatever, to tell compelling stories.

I long to one day see the story from Loving where someone becomes addicted to cough syrup. To me that is just the epitome of stupidity and it just cracks me up.

You may laugh, but it happened to ME! Well, not me personally... but a former boyfriend. He was a pharmacist, and was arrested for making up fake prescriptions for cough syrup (the kind with Codeine in it) and stealing it from the store where he worked. He was arrested about 6 weeks after we broke up, I didn't have a CLUE. Talk about dodging a bullet!

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