Case in point:

Just found this article from 2006 about ABC soaps and the U.S. territory of Guam....

Link: http://www.abc7guam.com/press2.php

Interesting stuff.

Be glad you just don't live in the Mountain Time Zone like me, because until a few years ago most stations seemed to air the soaps whenever they wanted to! I live in Albuquerque now but I can post the unusual line-ups we've have here in Albuquerque, and when I lived in Denver and Twin Falls Idaho if anyone is interested. I still have those listings. Most bizarre belongs to KMVT Twin Falls in the 90s.

Please do share... LOL

Oprah doesn't officially leave the air until September 2011. We have another full season of Oprah.

Excuse me, years, but in NYC it hadn't been as long as a decade.

no need to take offense. Sorry if thats the impression I left in my post

I'm Central and it's Y&R/AMC at 11am, B&B at 12:30, OLTL/DAYS/ATWT at 1pm and GH at 2pm.

This is how it is in Baton Rouge, except for Y&R airing in the afternoon at 4pm. The AMC is day-behind. Well, I think DAYS might come on at noon, but for some reason, we've never gotten the BR NBC station, just the CBS and ABC.

It's so interesting to hear stations other than Dallas are airing the Kids a day behind at 11AM. I'm not in the Dallas market, but I know the ABC affiliate here(Northwest Arkansas' 40/29) airs all of their recorded and syndicated programming in SD(with quality that looks very BETA cam-esque). That would have to be extremely aggravating to not watch AMC in HD if your ABC affiliate is as cheap as mine.

I don't understand why ABC won't run a live feed of AMC twice; once at 12EST and another at 1EST so the show won't suffer from a day delay. I wonder if they're worried other affiliates will follow suit by airing an hourlong news between AMC and OLTL? Surely, AMC would benefit from having The View as a direct lead-in(but that is not likely to last long if the timeslots are shuffled or if The View moves to syndication).

I do remember seeing a listing for a station somewhere west of where I grew up(Shreveport/Texarkana market) that aired AMC at 11, News at Noon and The City at 12:30, in direct competition with B&B and the last half hour of DAYS.

Edited February 6, 201015 yr by bellcurve

In Hawaii our lineup is:

CBS:

10am: The Price is Right

11:30am: The Bold & The Beautiful

12noon: Let's Make a Deal

1pm: The Young & The Restless

2pm: As the World Turns

3pm: Rachel Ray

4pm: One hour of Jeporday

ABC:

9am: The View

10am: Dr. OZ

11am: Various Programs

12noon: AMC

1pm: OLTL

2pm: GH

3pm: Ellen

4pm: One hour or Judge Judy

NBC:

1pm: DOOL

A trivial question but one that's confused me. I'm on the West Coast, PST time and I always wondered why all the networks broadcast their soaps an hour earlier PST, but at the same time in the other time zones. Especially since here we get PRIMETIME at the same time (ie if Desp Housewives is on at 9pm in New York, it'll be on at 9pm in Vancouver too, but AMC is on at noon here, and 1 everywhere else). And don't most networks broadcast an hour earlier Central or Mountain time? *confused*

Eric, affiliate stations can generate more money from airing local or syndicated programming than they can from network programming. By adhering to a Central schedule during the day and an Eastern schedule at night, west coast affiliates gain an additional hour to program non-network fare, thus increasing their profits.

It's so interesting to hear stations other than Dallas are airing the Kids a day behind at 11AM. I'm not in the Dallas market, but I know the ABC affiliate here(Northwest Arkansas' 40/29) airs all of their recorded and syndicated programming in SD(with quality that looks very BETA cam-esque). That would have to be extremely aggravating to not watch AMC in HD if your ABC affiliate is as cheap as mine.

I don't understand why ABC won't run a live feed of AMC twice; once at 12EST and another at 1EST so the show won't suffer from a day delay. I wonder if they're worried other affiliates will follow suit by airing an hourlong news between AMC and OLTL? Surely, AMC would benefit from having The View as a direct lead-in(but that is not likely to last long if the timeslots are shuffled or if The View moves to syndication).

I do remember seeing a listing for a station somewhere west of where I grew up(Shreveport/Texarkana market) that aired AMC at 11, News at Noon and The City at 12:30, in direct competition with B&B and the last half hour of DAYS.

Giving affiliates the option of having a new AMC at 11am and the news at noon (which I'm sure most if not all of them would take) would put the Kids (love it!) in direct competition with Y&R in many markets, and its numbers in the South would just...go dooooown probably. Well, maybe not really. Most soap fans in the South are strictly CBS anyway and watch the news and B&B in the noon hour, so I wonder if AMC would suffer at all.

*sigh* I wish there was sense in putting a soap at 10am or 10:30am. I love love love the idea of a morning soap. Too bad they mostly get low ratings.

Giving affiliates the option of having a new AMC at 11am and the news at noon (which I'm sure most if not all of them would take) would put the Kids (love it!) in direct competition with Y&R in many markets, and its numbers in the South would just...go dooooown probably. Well, maybe not really. Most soap fans in the South are strictly CBS anyway and watch the news and B&B in the noon hour, so I wonder if AMC would suffer at all.

*sigh* I wish there was sense in putting a soap at 10am or 10:30am. I love love love the idea of a morning soap. Too bad they mostly get low ratings.

I will never understand why people say B&B directly benefits from having Y&R as a lead-in.

In most of the O&O driven markets(i.e. New York, LA), AMC outperforms Y&R and B&B. And in the South, B&B has a half-hour news lead-in. People could change the channel to watch ABC if they wanted(I find most of my soap watching friends do anyway. They do Y&R and then the rest of the ABC lineup).

So I definitely see your point AMS.

And a morning soap would be good. But Sunset Beach(and before then, Santa Barbara) did so BAD in the ratings when affiliates aired it in the mornings. I remember Shreveport/Texarkana in it's first nine months aired Sunset Beach at 9AM, directly following the Today Show(I guess Leeza was doing well at 2PM back then). Luckily, the affiliate had the good sense to move Sunset Beach in(what I believe was) it's rightful, post-AW timeslot arounf August or September of 97.

ETA: Does AMC air in HD in your day-behind market, AMS?

Edited February 8, 201015 yr by bellcurve

Oprah doesn't officially leave the air until September 2011. We have another full season of Oprah.

Oh, joy. Oh, bliss.

I will never understand why people say B&B directly benefits from having Y&R as a lead-in.

In most of the O&O driven markets(i.e. New York, LA), AMC outperforms Y&R and B&B. And in the South, B&B has a half-hour news lead-in. People could change the channel to watch ABC if they wanted(I find most of my soap watching friends do anyway. They do Y&R and then the rest of the ABC lineup).

So I definitely see your point AMS.

And a morning soap would be good. But Sunset Beach(and before then, Santa Barbara) did so BAD in the ratings when affiliates aired it in the mornings. I remember Shreveport/Texarkana in it's first nine months aired Sunset Beach at 9AM, directly following the Today Show(I guess Leeza was doing well at 2PM back then). Luckily, the affiliate had the good sense to move Sunset Beach in(what I believe was) it's rightful, post-AW timeslot arounf August or September of 97.

ETA: Does AMC air in HD in your day-behind market, AMS?

As far as I can guess, it does. Since the semester started, I can only watch daytime on MWF, so I'm trying to get used to watching the day-behind shows on Wednesday and Friday, but I usually watch while doing other stuff in the living room, which has a regular SDTV. I guess I'll make it a point to see on Wednesday, but I would guess it's HD. The day-behind Baton Rouge airing is usually identical to the correct-day New Orleans airing, right down to the commercials and promos (except for the more local stuff).

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You had to ask did you? LOL.

Well when I lived in Denver and when KMGH was CBS their schedule looked like this:

10AM: B&B(day-behind)

10:30AM: TPIR

11:30AM: News

12PM: Y&R

1PM: ATWT

2PM: GL

I lived in Twin Falls, Idaho from 1995-1997 and the local CBS station KMVT had a very unusual line-up, even for Mountain Time Zone standards:

KMVT's daytime line-up of CBS shows in 1997:

9AM: TPIR

11:30AM: B&B

1PM: GL

2PM: Y&R

3PM: ATWT

Crazy isn't it? I moved to Albuquerque in 1997 and when I first moved here KRQE's schedule looked like this:

9AM TPIR

10AM: ATWT(day-behind)

1:30PM B&B

2PM: GL

3PM: Y&R

However the following year in 1998 til 9/18/09 KRQE changed their schedule to this:

10AM: ATWT(day-behind)

11AM: TPIR

12PM: News

12:30PM: B&B

1PM: Y&R

2PM: GL

Since GL went off the air, ATWT moved into GL's old timeslot and is no longer a day-behind:

10AM: LMAD

11AM: TPIR

12PM: News

12:30PM: B&B

1PM: Y&R

2PM: ATWT

You had to ask did you? LOL.

Well when I lived in Denver and when KMGH was CBS their schedule looked like this:

10AM: B&B(day-behind)

10:30AM: TPIR

11:30AM: News

12PM: Y&R

1PM: ATWT

2PM: GL

I lived in Twin Falls, Idaho from 1995-1997 and the local CBS station KMVT had a very unusual line-up, even for Mountain Time Zone standards:

KMVT's daytime line-up of CBS shows in 1997:

9AM: TPIR

11:30AM: B&B

1PM: GL

2PM: Y&R

3PM: ATWT

Crazy isn't it? I moved to Albuquerque in 1997 and when I first moved here KRQE's schedule looked like this:

9AM TPIR

10AM: ATWT(day-behind)

1:30PM B&B

2PM: GL

3PM: Y&R

However the following year in 1998 til 9/18/09 KRQE changed their schedule to this:

10AM: ATWT(day-behind)

11AM: TPIR

12PM: News

12:30PM: B&B

1PM: Y&R

2PM: GL

Since GL went off the air, ATWT moved into GL's old timeslot and is no longer a day-behind:

10AM: LMAD

11AM: TPIR

12PM: News

12:30PM: B&B

1PM: Y&R

2PM: ATWT

I wonder what the World Turns ratings are like with Y&R as a lead in? They must be higher than the national norm given such a strong lead in. I am shocked that the networks allow for all this shifting. It must help/hurt certain shows.

I wonder if what a show's up against really makes as much of a difference as it used to. Now that the 2pm pacific/3pm eastern time slot is basically just General Hospital--no NBC soap and no Guiding Light like it used to be up against in past markets, GH's ratings have still been falling regardless...

I wonder if what a show's up against really makes as much of a difference as it used to. Now that the 2pm pacific/3pm eastern time slot is basically just General Hospital--no NBC soap and no Guiding Light like it used to be up against in past markets, GH's ratings have still been falling regardless...

The situation with GH is sort of tricky: weak lead in with OLTL in almost all markets; up against the top-rated syndicated shows such as Doc Phil; and, maybe, the 2/3pm time slot is a bit disadvantaged.

As for any soap following Y&R, it gets a lead in with 5 million viewers so maybe we are seeing an exception to the rule. For many years, B&B had a huge lead over most of the other soaps and this had to be, in part, due to it following Y&R in the east. B&B isn't all that great and, even as recently as two years ago, I was shocked how it body slammed both AMC and Days. ATWT must benefit from a lead in of 5 million viewers in the effected markets which makes one wonder how badly the show does in other regions. I would also like to see how B&B does in the 11:30am slot--the numbers must be bad.

I am shocked that the networks do not require a standard national lineup same as prime time. They still need to sell national ads and one would think that the shifting of times would affect this.

I am waiting for B&B to finally crash. The only reason that mess can trump Days is because of the connection to Y&R. B&B is nothing but annoying now, especially since Susan Flannery has been back burnered. I like Heather Thom but she can not carry the show on her own.