Fans wanted Cane to be exposed as a fraud, but the writers didn't want to make Cane into a bad guy. So they dug up Phillip for him to say that he put Cane up to it because he wanted his family to have a son...20 years after he died. The writers gave the fans their wish and got to keep Cane as the good guy because it was Phillips idea. Unfortunately the writers screwed themselves big time because of the DNA test used to determine Delia's father and that made Cane look worse and hypocritical.

I think the reason they made Phillip gay was because Thom Beirdz said he would only come back if Phillip was gay. I don't think Maria wanted to recast. I don't think Rafe was suppose to be gay. I could swear on my life he was being chem tested with Colleen during the time Jana was shelling out that "Feed the Hungry" program.

Again, LUDICROUS! They did not need Phillip to expose Cane. There were a myriad of ways to make Cane a fraud while letting Phillip remain six-feet-under. And Phillip certainly wasn't needed just so Chance can come home from Iraq. Chance's mother, grandmother, and Katherine were already there waiting for him. And if Rafe wasn't supposed to be gay then I certainly don't understand why they made him so. No, in the end, the writers were overcome with cowardice! Pure and simple!

Chloe/Phillip bonding.

Wow is that dialogue awkward.

It's a nice scene, although I don't quite get the background music. I thought they were going to start making out.

Again, LUDICROUS! They did not need Phillip to expose Cane. There were a myriad of ways to make Cane a fraud while letting Phillip remain six-feet-under. And Phillip certainly wasn't needed just so Chance can come home from Iraq. Chance's mother, grandmother, and Katherine were already there waiting for him. And if Rafe wasn't supposed to be gay then I certainly don't understand why they made him so. No, in the end, the writers were overcome with cowardice! Pure and simple!

I don't think they were overcome with cowardice. I think they were cowards to begin with. There was never any hint they had more story for Rafe than being the loser who got duped by Adam. Or for Phillip than propping Cane and bringing in Chance.

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I don't think they were overcome with cowardice. I think they were cowards to begin with. There was never any hint they had more story for Rafe than being the loser who got duped by Adam. Or for Phillip than propping Cane and bringing in Chance.

Pretty much.

I think they only made Phil gay to get TB back and they never should have done that. I personally, as a gay guy, found it offensive actually. But then again im 22 and cant picture what times were like when Phil "faked his death because he was gay".

However i do think Rafe was always supposed to be gay, for the adam storyline.

But none of that matters, because both stories sucked. badly.

Well, whether they made Phillip gay to get TB back or not, Phillip was gay and they did nothing with him.

Edited November 12, 200916 yr by Vanguardian

I can't believed they showed a flashback of Daniel when he had that awful hair.

Amber looks remarkably unclownlike today.

This reminds me of when I actually really liked this couple

WTF, Cane gave her a Fing kangaroo jewelery??

Someone is laughing at us.

And again with that awful lite rock music. Stop it now! Even Peapack had a cooler rock soundtrack.

Again, LUDICROUS! They did not need Phillip to expose Cane. There were a myriad of ways to make Cane a fraud while letting Phillip remain six-feet-under. And Phillip certainly wasn't needed just so Chance can come home from Iraq. Chance's mother, grandmother, and Katherine were already there waiting for him. And if Rafe wasn't supposed to be gay then I certainly don't understand why they made him so. No, in the end, the writers were overcome with cowardice! Pure and simple!

Read again: fans wanted to see Cane exposed but the writers didn't. Which is when they came up with Phillip to save Cane.

WTF, Cane gave her a Fing kangaroo jewelery??

Someone is laughing at us.

Chance is allergic to kiwis.

Now we just need to get someone to call Cane an ostrich.

Chloe/Phillip bonding.

Wow is that dialogue awkward.

It's a nice scene, although I don't quite get the background music. I thought they were going to start making out.

I don't think they were overcome with cowardice. I think they were cowards to begin with. There was never any hint they had more story for Rafe than being the loser who got duped by Adam. Or for Phillip than propping Cane and bringing in Chance.

Overcome with cowardice or cowards to begin with, it doesn't matter. THEY LIED! They are the ones who relayed a supposed gay story to the fans. As for any hinting, Chance had PLENTY of hints surrounding him, especially in the beginning. I suppose it depends on how people saw it.

Even Peapack had a cooler rock soundtrack.

Peapack also housed an annoying loudmouth blonde.

Now we just need to get someone to call Cane an ostrich.

Pleaseletitbebillypleaseletitbebillypleaseletitbebilly.

We're getting the anvils of psycho Patty again already? Never again, please, no. One rampage was enough. Animals and Australians are not safe.

Aside from her awful shrieking at the end, this is one of the more tolerable Amber/Daniel episodes in a while. I had really grown to think Amber was, if not great on Y&R, at least OK, until this past year.

Doug looks cute with those glasses but they remind me of a Project Runway designer.

Edited November 12, 200916 yr by CarlD2

Aside from her awful shrieking at the end, this is one of the more tolerable Amber/Daniel episodes in a while. I had really grown to think Amber was, if not great on Y&R, at least OK, until this past year.

Gotta love a couple built on cheating during the death of a relative.

Read again: fans wanted to see Cane exposed but the writers didn't. Which is when they came up with Phillip to save Cane.

This doesn't make any sense, the fans wanted Cane exposed but the writers didn't? Cane WAS exposed as a fraud wasn't he? And wasn't it the writers who made this happen? And Phillip "saving" Cane? He didn't save Cane. Cane still ended up looking like a liar to those he was close to. The fans got what they wanted courtesy of the writers. As a result, I still say Phillip was not needed for any of this to happen. They could have and should have done something else.

Can someone link the NB column where she said this? I read it, and I do agree she said something in this spirit...but I'd like to see the direct quote, since this is the rope by which we keep hanging her

a.) Can't you look it up yourself Mr. "I Need PROOOOOOOF"? and

b.) That article has been quoted many, many times on this board and you have probably recited the quote like a prayer it 2X as much as it as been quoted and linked to. Why would you need to see it again?! To twist it so you can have the "evidence" you need to say, "A HA! I am right."