I don't trust these writers either, Sylph.

Heinle sucks and is miscast, it's both the actress and the writing that's failing the Victoria character.

I would hate for them to finally get a competent actress like Tognoni and write horribly for her, but the character is in dire need of a recasting and better writing. Victoria is too important of a character to be stuck with such an inept actress and crappy writing.

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

I don't trust these writers either, Sylph.

Heinle sucks and is miscast, it's both the actress and the writing that's failing the Victoria character.

I would hate for them to finally get a competent actress like Tognoni and write horribly for her, but the character is in dire need of a recasting and better writing. Victoria is too important of a character to be stuck with such an inept actress and crappy writing.

Okay here is a question, can Gina Tognoni do better with what little is written for Victoria?

Okay here is a question, can Gina Tognoni do better with what little is written for Victoria?

Of course, but a little isn't enough, especially when they hardly write for the character or they give her really bad stories, like this one with JT and Deacon.

I have no doubt Gina would be a great Victoria, but it starts with the writers. We've seen how many characters they've ruined this past year alone.

This discussion is getting a little too off-topic, maybe it should be continued in the Potpourri thread.

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Of course, but a little isn't enough, especially when they hardly write for the character or they give her really bad stories, like this one with JT and Deacon.

I have no doubt Gina would be a great Victoria, but it starts with the writers. We've seen how many characters they've ruined this past year alone.

This discussion is getting a little too off-topic, maybe it should be continued in the Potpourri thread.

Your right I moved to the Potpourri Thread.

I'm still getting the hang of this board and the rules.

One truly good thing today... Chloe's necklace! LOVED IT!

Would it kill Amelia Heinle to show some emotion and act like this she's alive in her scenes? It's really time to recast Victoria and write this essential character better.

Assuming we'll never get Heather Tom back in this role, I actually propose that Y&R continue its death spree. Victoria could plausibly be killed by Mary Jane, Adam, or Ryder. (Or maybe Carson could come back and kill her for a stolen bag of money or something). Eric and Melody could get a week of story out of it (which seems to be what they're going for these days).

On topic, I was amazed on Monday's US show how much better Luckinbill was in HIS "affair" scenes than Heinle. Heinle played tipsy, ticked off...a little bit flirtatious and cute...but her motivation was really non-existent. Luckinbill and Sursock, IMO, actually managed to play some of that backstory...especially TL with those soulful eyes.

Assuming we'll never get Heather Tom back in this role, I actually propose that Y&R continue its death spree. Victoria could plausibly be killed by Mary Jane, Adam, or Ryder. (Or maybe Carson could come back and kill her for a stolen bag of money or something). Eric and Melody could get a week of story out of it (which seems to be what they're going for these days).

Off topic, but since when did you join this death bandwagon? You were so against another death happening on this show a few weeks ago.

Has this show crushed your faith and belief in it that badly?

I guess I can see how that would happen, given how bad the show is these days.

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Off topic, but since when did you join this death bandwagon? You were so against another death happening on this show a few weeks ago.

Has this show crushed your faith and belief in it that badly?

I guess I can see how that would happen, given how bad the show is these days.

You got it.

I would prefer NO MORE DEATH. But I have resigned myself to a killing a month from now on.

So, then, my thoughts turn to "whose death would upset me the least?" Seriously, that's how my thinking is these days.

So why didn't Daniel play the "Gina is my aunt" card when that manager guy was all hot and bothered to press charges against him? That would have been my first line of defense.

So why didn't Daniel play the "Gina is my aunt" card when that manager guy was all hot and bothered to press charges against him? That would have been my first line of defense.

The writers probably forgot that his aunt runs the dining part of the GCAC because mentioning that would actually make sense.....

With this regime, the character would be horridly written: either faux-killing, completely out-of-the-blue sexual orientation story, Victoria is actually faux-Victoria who has escaped from asylum who likes to burn fetuses and kill cats... It would be terrible.

:lol:

I think its utterly ridiculous that Ashley is STILL walking around town with no baby inside her

You know the show is terrible when the Y&R weekly thread only has 3 pages and it's Wednesday...

Discuss!!!

Every time I come into this thread I'm transfixed by that lovely Lilibet picture.

Two things come to mind. First, why don't I see any of that sweet-but-sexy remnant in Mary Jane? Second, THAT is what I wish Heather had been like.

I think its utterly ridiculous that Ashley is STILL walking around town with no baby inside her

The Chipmunk did it!