Humphrey needs to plot to kill Lily and/or Cane ( a la Stewie Griffin).

Must see TV meets daytime indeed

Some thoughts on today's US episode:

- I'd rather they keep Jill and Katherine away from one another. I'm tired of these contrived baseless little arguments they have over stupid things and over Jill not really being Kay's daughter. The aftermath from the reveal has been an epic FAIL. It all feels flat and hollow.

- Can they please write Jeffrey and Gloria OUT already? It's so obvious that they have no idea what to do with these two, and they just insert them in randomly for what Maria claims is supposed to be "comedic relief" and it DOES NOT WORK. What purpose are these losers serving? Since they obviously need to pare down the cast, these two need to be among the first cut, they're so aimless.

- LOVED Nina telling Lily that she doesn't have the best track-record to know when she's been conned.

- And how convenient that Cane has a TEST TUBE that LOOKS EXACTLY like the test tube from the person conducting the DNA test. Also, wouldn't that frozen blood Cane obviously got from Phillip III a few YEARS ago be ruined in composition anyway?

- I HATE how Sharon's LIES are giving this false hope to Jack. This is cruel, manipulative, nasty, and very selfish. Jack deserves better than to be stuck in this INANE quad. I can't stress enough how much this quad is destroying every character invovled.

- Nosy ass Heather and Patty Jane trying to get Phyllis in trouble for what happened to Summer. ....This show sure makes it easy to redeem certain characters.

- Loved the Cassie flashback, as always.

- Sorry Nick, I have no sympathy for you or anyone else in your orbit.

- I've already made it pretty clear how much I hate that Katherine might have yet another illness story again.

-WHY OH WHY IS SHARON LYING? I just can't get over how stupid and nonsensical this thing is.

Yeah, a pretty negative assessment, but you all know I have serious problems with this show and its stories right now. It all just SUCKS to me.

Edited July 1, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Some thoughts on today's US episode:

- I'd rather they keep Jill and Katherine away from one another. I'm tired of these contrived baseless little arguments they have over stupid things and over Jill not really being Kay's daughter. The aftermath from the reveal has been an epic FAIL. It all feels flat and hollow.

- Can they please write Jeffrey and Gloria OUT already? It's so obvious that they have no idea what to do with these two, and they just insert them in randomly for what Maria claims is supposed to be "comedic relief" and it DOES NOT WORK. What purpose are these losers serving? Since they obviously need to pare down the cast, these two need to be among the first cut, they're so aimless.

- LOVED Nina telling Lily that she doesn't have the best track-record to know when she's been conned.

- And how convenient that Cane has a TEST TUBE that LOOKS EXACTLY like the test tube from the person conducting the DNA test. Also, wouldn't that frozen blood Cane obviously got from Phillip III a few YEARS ago be ruined in composition anyway?

- I HATE how Sharon's LIES are giving this false hope to Jack. This is cruel, manipulative, nasty, and very selfish. Jack deserves better than to be stuck in this INANE quad. I can't stress enough how much this quad is destroying every character invovled.

- Nosy ass Heather and Patty Jane trying to get Phyllis in trouble for what happened to Summer. ....This show sure makes it easy to redeem certain characters.

- Loved the Cassie flashback, as always.

- Sorry Nick, I have no sympathy for you or anyone else in your orbit.

- I've already made it pretty clear how much I hate that Katherine might have yet another illness story again.

-WHY OH WHY IS SHARON LYING? I just can't get over how stupid and nonsensical this thing is.

Yeah, a pretty negative assessment, but you all know I have serious problems with this show and its stories right now. It all just SUCKS to me.

Really? I hadn't noticed.

Glad you liked a couple things, about eighteen seconds were salvaged for you. At least it wasn't a total wash.

ETA: That last sentence wasn't sarcasm. (First one was) It was nice to read the pros and the cons from you, A. I meant that.

Edited July 1, 200916 yr by brimike

Really? I hadn't noticed.

Think I'm bad, go the some of the other boards, like the Sony or SOC Y&R boards, almost every thread is negative or bashes this show (which right now, I personally believe is rightfully so).

Glad you liked a couple things, about eighteen seconds were salvaged for you. At least it wasn't a total wash.

LOL! Yeah, I do like some things, but I just cannot connect to this show overall and its storylines right now. I think the show has become polarizing to the point where you either "get" it or you don't.

ETA: That last sentence wasn't sarcasm. (First one was) It was nice to read the pros and the cons from you, A. I meant that.

No problem, notice I didn't mention "fire these hacks" or whatever in that post, that was especially for you.

No problem, notice I didn't mention "fire these hacks" or whatever in that post, that was especially for you.

Thanks, man! Viva la discussion!!!!!!

Think I'm bad, go the some of the other boards, like the Sony or SOC Y&R boards, almost every thread is negative or bashes this show (which right now, I personally believe is rightfully so).

Yeah, but I hold you in much higher regard than I do them.

Yeah, but I hold you in much higher regard than I do them.

Thanks! LOL!

Thanks! LOL!

If I want to read eighteen pages of "Sharin''s a Ho-Bag" or "HOLLA! SHACK FOREVAH!" or "Eff Maria - where is LANE?!?!?!" or "These Hack writers don't know what the hack they're doing" or "It's all stoopid", I know where to go. I come here because these are the people who love character moments. Who love the art Nancy Curlee provided. Who look at these stories from a literary standpoint. And those who don't - who just want to be entertained for an hour and don't think a whole lot about "The Journey", still find a way to express themselves, what they like and don't like with very open minds, and take the time to explain their positions rather than just "It sux"

Or maybe I'm just imagining an SON that was only in my head. But for a few years there, it sure felt that way from my perspective. But I'm sure others had different experiences.

Sorry. Didn't mean to go off-topic. Back to the matter at hand.

This Summer incident is lacking the emotional punch I was expecting. MS is playing the hell out of it, but the rest of the Newmen's should be FREAKING OUT!

Here's an excerpt article from article from 1992 that partly praised Y&R for its depiction of women at the time, it's hard to believe how badly this show has gotten in that respect recently, especially over the course of the last year:

http://www.welovesoaps.net/2009/06/flashback-young-restless-and-socially.html#more

By far the loudest message coming out of audience research, soap executives say, is a desire for women characters to be stronger, more independent and self-sufficient. While the concept of family remains important, viewers are not very enthusiastic about women depicted primarily as appendages to men. Then, of course, there is the blazingly hot issue of sexual harassment. Right now on THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS, Cricket is plotting revenge on Michael, the hotshot lawyer who would boost her new law career in exchange for sexual favors. Michael was clever enough never to have witnesses around, and except for her husband, nobody will believe Cricket. But just wait.

This Summer incident is lacking the emotional punch I was expecting. MS is playing the hell out of it, but the rest of the Newmen's should be FREAKING OUT!

I totally agree. I can't even point all my fingers at the writing - the directing is weird. Like those ranch scenes with adam, estella, rafe, nikki, ashley and victor last week. Braeden didn't even play like he gave a crap today. Like he hugged Phyllis because she got a paper cut. I'm hoping this will change once

Phyllis is accused on Thursday

.

Do they have a sign in the Y&R writers room that says "Heather must always be wrong"?

If I want to read eighteen pages of "Sharin''s a Ho-Bag" or "HOLLA! SHACK FOREVAH!" or "Eff Maria - where is LANE?!?!?!" or "These Hack writers don't know what the hack they're doing" or "It's all stoopid", I know where to go. I come here because these are the people who love character moments. Who love the art Nancy Curlee provided. Who look at these stories from a literary standpoint. And those who don't - who just want to be entertained for an hour and don't think a whole lot about "The Journey", still find a way to express themselves, what they like and don't like with very open minds, and take the time to explain their positions rather than just "It sux"

For a while, I think my criticisms were simply being ignored just because I do not like the writing on this show or think those currently in charge of storyline at this show needed to be fired, which is still my view of course. I guess what I was trying to say was I think the show deserves better, I don't constantly berate the show because I genuinely want it to be bed, I do it because I care and think the show can be much better than what it currently is.

Sorry. Didn't mean to go off-topic. Back to the matter at hand.

LOL, yeah, this thread is majorly off-topic.

Do they have a sign in the Y&R writers room that says "Heather must always be wrong"?

LOL! They really hate that character, I don't think they have any interest in her other than always making her the fool.

I think the only only they might hate more is this current incarnation of Colleen...

I hate this stuff with Sharon, but damn that musical piece gets me every time. The final one that played on today's U.S. episode.

Preach ! I've always maintained that half of Y&R's impact lies in it's background score. People don't think it's that big of a deal, but it's a HUGE deal.. and that piece at the end of today's eppy is just about the best piece being currently used today in all of daytime.

LOL! They really hate that character, I don't think they have any interest in her other than always making her the fool.

I think the only only they might hate more is this current incarnation of Colleen...

I wonder if it might be because Vail most days seems to just pull her performances out of her ass... with no real depth or forethought apparent?