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Y&R: Week of June 15-19, 2009

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I would like to propose to you in honor of your post! :wub: I've often likened Chloe to a modern fashion-inspired version of Nina and one of my favorite scenes last month was Chloe talking to Nina at the barbecue.

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But how does a show, especially a show like Y&R, solve the diversity problem without making them seem like walking stereotypes, but at the same time, not essentially "whitewashing" or segregating them?

It's easy to say, "Why not view them as characters instead of African-American characters," when a large portion of the audience hates that PC bullshit when people forget about race. They don't view Lily as a black character because of Christel Khalil's diction and attitude, but also the fact that she has yet to be paired with another black character. But Lily is, as far as I'm concerned, "fully integrated," even if I don't personally feel she represents the Winters family.

But at the same time, I don't want to be preached to either with characters seeing campy crap like "N***** GET LOST" spraypainted on the walls of a house for sale.

Race issues would be disastrous in the hands of this writing regime, who are clearly scared of or simply not interested in writing for African-Americans.

Sarah Buxton for Phyllis!
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LOL :lol: I love Sarah Buxton. She's not on Michelle Stafford's level but I have a real core of affection for her.

OMG, I am watching yesterday's Y&R right now and -- apart from breaking out in HIVES over how bored and disinterested Christel Khalil's delivery is ("Like, we totally can't have kids, Cane") -- I am getting GOOSEBUMPS from seeing Stacy Haiduk and Doug Davidson in their scenes together. OK, I know it was only a dream but damn. I don't care about Mary Jane trying to entrap Jack as much as Paul and Patty's cat-and-mouse game.

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My problem with Lily is not her or the character, but that she's the only type of black person they'll branch off and integrate. Someone more urban like Devon or Tyra is segregated into their own world and Neil is only featured as a Yes man. Lily would be great in a sea of diversity, but as the sole lead black character it strikes me as a bit prejudice.

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QUOTE (Chris B @ Jun 17 2009, 09:20 AM)
My problem with Lily is not her or the character, but that she's the only type of black person they'll branch off and integrate. Someone more urban like Devon or Tyra is segregated into their own world and Neil is only featured as a Yes man. Lily would be great in a sea of diversity, but as the sole lead black character it strikes me as a bit prejudice.
But that's exactly what I mean.

Do you want more black characters like Lily on Y&R or do you want more urban characters? What kind of stories do you want these characters in? More interracial romances, more supporting stories, more lead stories? Do you want to see Devon and Tyra together in a relationship?

I hate asking these questions like Sylph, but I truly want to know.

I'd rather see the Winters written out with maybe Neil there as a supporting figure or used in a triangle or romance with Victoria or Nina.

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