Members dm. Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 Exactly! They gave TS plenty material and she never delivered, IMO. They never tried to give this to VB. Instead they chose to put her into a position that nobody can see her in and have her sue all of their favorite characters. Yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 Kevin as gay would be great. But I agree he only had chemistry with Colleen(AL's version). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 While you are right, I confess in my head I have chosen to make it a positive (Engen quits a job that was making him crazy; the show and the fans get a new take on Adam with an actor who is thrilled to be there). And, a lot of discussion was had (not all constructive, but still) about attitudes to GLBT in America and entertainment. Plus, isn't the old saw "there is no such thing as bad publicity"? Well, all the examples you cite are of "sweet princesses". But I see Vail more as Sharon Case/Katherine Kelly Lang. By which I mean...there is a sweetness and an intention to do good...but also a single-minded obsessiveness about the "soul mate"...and a very sexual nature. It is this package that I feel Vail could rock. You know, I have regular debates with someone on usenet about Kevin "coming out of the closet" (especially because the closet has been so explicit in his life). The problem I have is that he has been written as resolutely straight...I never even felt subtext going the other way. I know the rumors about Rikaart, but it doesn't feel to me true to the writing to make Kevin anything but straight at this point. But I'm afraid to even post the last paragraph because I don't want to get into any more "gay agenda" wars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dm. Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 It's not little. This has been building for months. Sorry Sylph but I only answered because I was tired of the negativity. I don't think I've turned into anything different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 Amen. Another reason to make the character a model. DA on Y&R is a THANKLESS role. Give it back to Glenn Richards. Always sanctimonious, going after the wrong people. Wow. I'm surprised you're on board with this. We fight so hard about this issue over at Usenet. Yes, AL's Colleen just smouldered, didn't she? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 I don't know what to say. For someone to post such unbelievable lies and for you to jump on the train right in a nanosecond is just... Wow. But nevermind. This is a thread about Y&R. People don't want to read this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 Well, people can deal with it. I'm pretty sure I don't have a gay agenda. My agenda is drama and mixing things up brings the drama. If they are going to keep Kevin straight, then I want him to do more love scenes. He really sold that elevator scene to me, he looked like he was having fun. I need more of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dm. Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 Yeah, sure. Whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cashton Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 With that, the world breathes a collective sigh of relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 VB would be one of the few credible models Y&R has ever had. The idea that Lily or Colleen could ever be fashion models is a complete joke, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dm. Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 They have the brains for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 Yes. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 I always liked Adrianne Leon in the role. I was upset when she was fired. She and Kevin had great chemistry. Such a wasted opportunity only to have him paired with awful Jana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 ITA. I have always thought that Kevin was gay or bisexual. I could see Kevin becoming attracted to Rafe and hooking up with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 ICAM. For a time it looked like they were going there. I was so disappointed when AL was fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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