11 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

For what it's worth, a timeline as I understand it.

Ford was married to Shelley Hull from 1946 to 1955. When she was playing Eve Morris on The Edge of Night (1964-65?) she moved in with Louise Fitzhugh and they were together until after Ford started on Another World in 1967 but broke up around 1968.

Wickwire was married to Basil Langton from 1959 to 1969. She was on Another World from August 1969 until July 1971.

In this article which according to the original post was from 1969, the driver picks up Ford and Wickwire together "in front of Augie's Coffee Shop at E 41st St and Matison Av". The writer specifies that the actresses met for the pickup but there is no way of knowing whether that is true or simply discreet.

Thanks for this. Now, in this last line, do you mean discreet or indiscreet?

 

2 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Thanks for this. Now, in this last line, do you mean discreet or indiscreet?

 

I meant discreet. That is if the actresses were living together but did not want to admit it, saying that they simply happened to find it convenient to be picked up at the same location would provide cover. But equally in the absence of other evidence they could just be colleagues who lived in the same part of Manhattan who found it convenient to be picked up in front of Augie's. 

5 hours ago, Xanthe said:

E 41st St and Matison Av

Madison! I struggled so hard with the link that I didn't notice the typo here and now I can't edit the post. 😡

16 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Michele Shay is one of the most unique actresses I've seen on a soap.

Indeed. I think the show had some wonderful and charismatic Black performers through the years, in roles all the way from Peggy Nolan through to the Burrells. They were just never very well served by the show. 

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11 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

Madison! I struggled so hard with the link that I didn't notice the typo here and now I can't edit the post. 😡

Honest to god, I knew you knew how to spell Madison. It's biblical! Typos shall always be with us. 

5 hours ago, Xanthe said:

I meant discreet. That is if the actresses were living together but did not want to admit it, saying that they simply happened to find it convenient to be picked up at the same location would provide cover. But equally in the absence of other evidence they could just be colleagues who lived in the same part of Manhattan who found it convenient to be picked up in front of Augie's. 

Sure, even in NYC they could have needed "cover". I get it.

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6 hours ago, teplin said:

Indeed. I think the show had some wonderful and charismatic Black performers through the years, in roles all the way from Peggy Nolan through to the Burrells. They were just never very well served by the show. 

I thought the black characters were well written, interesting and prominent from 1982-86.  In 1986 Thomasina, Carter, Grant II and Lily were written out but it looked like things were promising for Quinn with the introduction of Zack Edwards and his family. Then Quinn was killed (do not get me started!) in 1987 and Zack and his romances (Ronnie, Courtney) were never front and centre and he eventually left in 1990. It wasn't until 1997 with the introduction of Toni Burrell that black characters were prominent again.  The show was a mess from 1995-99 but there were interesting black characters those last couple of years - Chris, Rita, Toni, Etta Mae, Tyrone and then KC during the last few months.

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Tina Sloan gives some backstage gossip about her time on Another World. 

Thanks @chrisml . These are juicier excerpts than I had expected. I wonder who the affair might involve. I also wonder if this is why she was written out after a year (then again AW had huge turnover at this time - maybe everyone kept finding out about the affair).

10 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks @chrisml . These are juicier excerpts than I had expected. I wonder who the affair might involve. I also wonder if this is why she was written out after a year (then again AW had huge turnover at this time - maybe everyone kept finding out about the affair).

The affair may have been David Bailey.  Not sure who the actress may have been.  The younger man -- who knows?  AW had lots of young men in the cast at that point.  

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Interesting.

Agreed, that the male actor that was having an affair was most likely David Bailey. Maybe the younger actress was Janice Lynde.

As for the cute young actor who was about 10 years younger, I know Richard Bekins is gay, but he’s about 10 years older younger than Tina Sloan lol then again, so was Ray Liotta.

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1 hour ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Interesting.

Agreed, that the male actor that was having an affair was most likely David Bailey. Maybe the younger actress was Janice Lynde.

As for the cute young actor who was about 10 years younger, I know Richard Bekins is gay, but he’s about 10 years older younger than Tina Sloan lol then again, so was Ray Liotta.

Also, there were two or three younger men always hanging around the pool at Miranda Bishop's house.  I believe they were all contract actors. And Ric Halloway, who married Marianne Randolph.  Unless I have my timing wrong.

23 hours ago, Efulton said:

I thought the black characters were well written, interesting and prominent from 1982-86.  In 1986 Thomasina, Carter, Grant II and Lily were written out but it looked like things were promising for Quinn with the introduction of Zack Edwards and his family.

There seemed to be an unfortunate amount of turnover in the black cast during 1982-1984 although we had several excellent actors and more than one or two castmembers at any given time. But having a variety of adult characters with assorted relationships was very pleasant for a few years.

 It was a bit depressing to me after Roy and Henrietta and then Lily left and we were limited to one young couple plus one man and one woman from the older generation. Quinn didn't have much to do after Thomasina got married and Grant died. And her relationship with Zack was so brief that it felt to me as if it was put forward only to give the Sin Stalker an excuse to (unreasonably) consider her a slut.