On 9/14/2024 at 1:25 PM, j swift said:

I would argue the problem with Scott, is the same issue with Jamey and Dennis, it is difficult to write a compelling prince-charming, aka a rich good guy. 

Was Scott still rich after he turned against Reginald? I have a dim recollection that Reginald may have left all of his money to Victoria or something when he died, but while he was alive, did he continue to support Scott or try to influence him by giving or withholding money?

I really liked Denise Alexander as Mary McKinnon and consider Mary to be one of only two successful creations Margaret DePriest had at AW.  John Hudson being the other one.  The first problem was that Reginald was written and performed like an over the top cartoon villain instead of a complex grey character. We should have seen onscreen why Mary loved him and why she was torn between him and Vince. The other problem was the casting of the McKinnons. Kathleen Layman (MJ) and Julie Osburn (Kathleen) were popular but left in 1986. Layman before Mary’s introduction and Osburn before we really got to see the impact of Mary’s return on the McKinnon family. Vince went through multiple recasts before we got Robert Hogan who was great in the role.  Ben was gone and Cheryl was new and never given proper focus.  The Loves had the same problem with recasting which is why the focus should have been on the Ewings and Matthews not the Loves and McKinnons.  

18 hours ago, Xanthe said:

Was Scott still rich after he turned against Reginald? I have a dim recollection that Reginald may have left all of his money to Victoria or something when he died, but while he was alive, did he continue to support Scott or try to influence him by giving or withholding money?

Victoria got the money, but Scott was always rich, as evidenced by his final trip to Italy with Dawn, which I assume was not filled with hostels and dollar pizza.

Reginald did leave Scott an inheritance in his will, but he donated all of it to AIDS research.

On 9/16/2024 at 9:43 PM, Wendy said:

As I wrote in the Santa Barbara thread, I recently bought the special 50 Greatest Couples SOD print issue.

Nice photos/write ups and all, but while Days, GH, Y&R, B&B, and even canceled soaps Santa Barbara, Guiding Light, As The World Turns, and All My Children had multiple couples listed, Another World only had one...

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Mac and Rachel.

But then, some soaps like Generations, Loving, Capitol, and Search For Tomorrow had zip, so...maybe one was still better.

The fact that Steve and Alice were excluded says a lot about that list. Now, I think Mac and Rachel are deserving, but Steve and Alice helped established AW and brought in the ratings. To be disregarded is disgraceful. I put them up there with Luke and Laura, Bo and Hope, Cruz and Eden, as far as importance to their respective shows! 

3 minutes ago, Melroser said:

The fact that Steve and Alice were excluded says a lot about that list. Now, I think Mac and Rachel are deserving, but Steve and Alice helped established AW and brought in the ratings. To be disregarded is disgraceful. I put them up there with Luke and Laura, Bo and Hope, Cruz and Eden, as far as importance to their respective shows! 

Also with Doug & Julie and Jeff & Penny. Leaving out Alice & Steve is tantamount to a sacrilege.

Also a slap in the face to one Agnes Nixon who as we recall "saved the show".

SFT should have been mentioned for Travis & Liza and Jo/Sam.

On 9/17/2024 at 5:43 PM, j swift said:

Victoria got the money, but Scott was always rich, as evidenced by his final trip to Italy with Dawn, which I assume was not filled with hostels and dollar pizza.

I went back and looked at the AWHP synopses and they actually say that it was Chad who paid for the trip.

Everyone wonders how Chad came up with the money for Scott and Dawn's trip.

On 9/17/2024 at 5:59 PM, AbcNbc247 said:

Reginald did leave Scott an inheritance in his will, but he donated all of it to AIDS research.

Thanks. I had only remembered Vicky getting the bulk of it and Donna and Nicole getting nothing. Apparently Mary got property in Paraguay. 

On 9/17/2024 at 5:17 PM, Efulton said:

I really liked Denise Alexander as Mary McKinnon and consider Mary to be one of only two successful creations Margaret DePriest had at AW.  John Hudson being the other one.

John didn't really work properly until dePriest left and they grounded him in the PTSD storyline. Mary was more consistently effective but had less storyline once Reginald was disposed of and her children dried up. And if her original storyline had been as icky as John's it probably would have dragged the character down as well.

22 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

I went back and looked at the AWHP synopses and they actually say that it was Chad who paid for the trip.

That is an interesting detail.  Who knew pimping paid so well? (or was the extortion?) 😉

Edited September 19, 20241 yr by j swift

18 minutes ago, j swift said:

That is an interesting detail.  Who knew pimping paid so well? (or was the extortion?)

Did Chad profit financially from extortion? They spent so much time whitewashing him and suggesting that he could be a viable love interest that I don't remember him keeping up any criminal activity. When he started pestering MJ he was still pimping. I remember him chatting with a naive runaway in a park and nobly refusing to traffic her -- and of course feeling guilty when Dawn was diagnosed with AIDS. 

I don't know whether they considered having MJ go back to Chad after Adam jilted her. She didn't stay around very long after that. Dawn's trip to Venice with Scott was a graduation present and Chad apparently visited them before she died and never appeared in Bay City again.

TCM has a bio for Richard Burgi in which they oddly describe Chad as "macho".

https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/person/775837|0/Richard-Burgi#overview

@Xanthe 

I blame a copywriter with the soul of a poet.

16 hours ago, j swift said:

@Xanthe 

I blame a copywriter with the soul of a poet.

A handsome young pimp learned to pity
When his sister was quite ill (though pretty)
His anguish seemed hollow
But macho Chad Rollo
Stopped trafficking girls in Bay City

  

2 hours ago, Xanthe said:

A handsome young pimp learned to pity
When his sister was quite ill (though pretty)
His anguish seemed hollow
But macho Chad Rollo
Stopped trafficking girls in Bay City

  

I had no idea we were chatting with Oscar @Xanthe Wilde in our midst. 😄✍🏼️ 

Edited September 19, 20241 yr by j swift

2 hours ago, Xanthe said:

A handsome young pimp learned to pity
When his sister was quite ill (though pretty)
His anguish seemed hollow
But macho Chad Rollo
Stopped trafficking girls in Bay City

  

Ooh! Ooh! Do Alma Rudder next!

• There once was a villain named Alma,  
• Whose schemes stirred up endless drama.  
• She gaslit poor Blaine,
• with a doll in the game,  
• 'Til her knife fight became her last karma!

Edited September 19, 20241 yr by j swift