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Y&R Actor off contract

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Henry G. Sanders

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Michelle Thomas

They were BUILDING the family then.

Other than Michelle, Siena & Keith not so much.

So is Bregman.

And look how they treat her.

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Dee Dee.. it was under Alden/Smith that the we had Winters overload. to be honest I don't like overload on any character. I feel with McClure, since he is lacking in talent he NEEDS looks to put him over. I don't feel looks are everything, look at Beth Maitland, the best young actress this show EVER HAD and she still brings it like no other. Same with Tricia Cast. Neither were classically beautiful, but their talent just outshined all else. That's the same reason I think it was wise for them to get rid of Diamont. He's someone else who sailed through on his looks.

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And look how they treat her.

I know! She was born in Germany - I'll bet they hate all Germans! And they only play Braeden with MTS and ED because they don't know what else to do with him! They need their token German, after all.

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Don't want those pesky minorities getting too uppity!

Now did I say that? I don't think ANY, and I mean ANY group of viewers can lay claim to the show's success... it's a matter of everyone having their oars in the water. If the black viewer is responsible for Y&R being at number one, were they also responsible for the failure of Generations?

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Dee Dee.. it was under Alden/Smith that the we had Winters overload.

Not in the least.

I feel with Brighton, since he is lacking in talent he NEEDS looks to put him over.

Rikaart is NOT cute NOR all that talented neither is Graziadei.

I don't feel looks are everything

Looks AREN'T everything BUT they are when it comes to keeping pointless actors like Graziadei on contract?

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Now did I say that? I don't think ANY, and I mean ANY group of viewers can lay claim to the show's success... it's a matter of everyone having their oars in the water. If the black viewer is responsible for Y&R being at number one, were they also responsible for the failure of Generations?

Alphanguy, you make great points. But this is really a losing battle. Trust me, a few of us have been here. This whole thread devolved into what most Winters threads devolve into. Which is a shame - because there's some interesting discussions to be had about them. That have nothing to do with this.

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BAM! :lol: Yes!
And once more, with feeling (God, one has to love, love, love Buffy episode titles!): BAM! :lol: Gone!

:wub: buffy throwouts.

Get rid of them, and add new ones. Olivia, Neil, Lily, and hopefully Nate too, as well as a good, interesting love interest for Neil. I don't want them to be kept just for the sake of them being black--just like I would hate it if they were all fired because they're black.

Exactly.

And yet Rikaart, Graizadei, Frantz, Sursok, Khalil & O'Brien STAY with story.

Sursok has story?

O'Brien & Khalil have story? Aside from a pop in their mans story?

Graz has a story?

I have LOATHED Devon from day one. So long Brighton, don't let the door hit you on the way out!

With that said, let's ship off Tyra and Ana...both total losers!

Then, time to bring on a recast Nate and get Olivia and Gil more into the mix!

Word.

I liekd Bryton, he is a great young actor. but Devon was nothing more than a walking PSA

Eh, I never cared one way or the other much about Devon. I don't get how letting him go is putting the character to "rest," though. Characters who are always on (like Our Kevin of Perpetual Mind-Losing) are the ones who need "rest." When you "rest" them, you rotate in people like Devon. I feel like whenever Dru died, so did anyone's motivation write for Devon, but whatevs.

Tristan Wilds? Oh hells no. There's a reason I don't watch nu90210...

Thats because Devon was just an extension of Dru. He never became a character on his own. They tried a few times, but it never worked.

and Wilds is fantastic on 90210 and he was on the wire.

Tyra & Anna need to go. They then need to feture Liv a bit more and bring in Nate. Maybe use Nate in thos suposed gay storyline down the line we are suposed to get this year that nelson reported. Who knows. There is also a lot of young women on the show who could use a man.

And really, Lily is an awful character. So bring in a few other AA's. But please do NOT throw them all together! Mix & Mingle people, PLEASE!

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I don't think ANY, and I mean ANY group of viewers can lay claim to the show's success...

Right.

Cause it's not like there was significant ratings dives after certain minority actors left or anything.

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Right.

Cause it's not like there was significant ratings dives after certain minority actors left or anything.

And its not like ANYTHING but that person could have ever been the reason at all.

I dont know, like the show sucking. for years before. the overall slide in daytime ratings?

no. none of that. not at all.

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Alphanguy, you make great points. But this is really a losing battle. Trust me, a few of us have been here. This whole thread devolved into what most Winters threads devolve into. Which is a shame - because there's some interesting discussions to be had about them. That have nothing to do with this.

As usual.

Another game of strawman creation in order to not discuss the blatant racism in Daytime & to extinguish the legitmate issues of minority actors & fans of the genre.

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Looks AREN'T everything BUT they are when it comes to keeping pointless actors like Graziadei on contract?

Unfortuantely, YES... That's why Diamont lasted as long as he did, and let's not even bring up Michael Damian. Berate him as much as you want, but Rikkart is VERY talented, there might be 2 or3 percent of the viewers who don't feel this way. I'm not saying racism don't exist in daytime, I just feel that Y&R is that LAST place anybody should be pointing fingers.

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Sursok has story?

O'Brien & Khalil have story? Aside from a pop in their mans story?

Graz has a story?

Even when they aren't the lead in a story they're ALWAYS on.

Daniel had NO story of his own for the longest yet he was on almost EVERY day in EVERY story.

I liekd Bryton, he is a great young actor. but Devon was nothing more than a walking PSA

He's no worse than Luke & Van.

He never became a character on his own.

When did he get the chance?

So bring in a few other AA's.

Or TPTB could put more effort into working with what they have.

Unfortuantely, YES...

...Exactly

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As usual.

Another game of strawman creation in order to not discuss the blatant racism in Daytime & to extinguish the legitmate issues of minority actors & fans of the genre.

With all due respect, DeeeDee, you're not "discussing". I normally love your posts, but whenever this comes up, it's never about "the discussion". Discussion involves an exchanging of ideas where you open yourself up to the possibility that someone on the other side of the argument might be able to teach you something. You're just throwing out very aggressive sentences, and then following it up with "Exactly." Like you've proven some point. Other posters are trying to discuss things, but all you're responding with are "wrong" and "so there" and similar statements. That's not a discussion. At all.

Are the minority characters in daytime done a great disservice currently? Of course. Nobody's arguing that. And if you want to truly discuss it, then we can in another thread. But there's nothing even remotely close to a "discussion" going on right now.

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