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Y&R: Why do you hate Jill is Katherine's daughter so much?

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They ran out of ideas for their feud, and then they ran out of ideas for Jill.

No.

Jack Smith just didn't want to use her. At all.

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What I don't understand is that they made them mother and daughter and did nothing with them afterwards. After this initial storyline, these two character were in backburner hell. We never got to see much of their relationship as mother and daughter devlope, and why they acted the way they acted around each other. It goes back to why they had to come up with this in the first place. It just really made no sense, there was never a sufficient follow though.

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Not to mention, Jack F. Smith gave this storyline a horrible follow though and the aftermath just sucked. After this revelation, Katherine and Jill never had much to do. All we saw was they were joined at the hip and "close" - which just rang so false.

I'm glad it's over now...

I don't understand what's wrong with two people hating each other all their lives. It happens all the time in real life.

There's people I hate and will always hate, I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Pretty much.

these two character were in backburner hell.

...EXACTLY.

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No.

Jack Smith just didn't want to use her. At all.

You're right, but I was talking about 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, around the time Kay Alden was there. Jill had nothing to do but hang around the Dennison family, then she was put into the house with Kay and all her stories became about causing problems for Kay, Mac, and Billy.

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I didn't really care for the twist. I just don't see why they couldn't still hate each other even though they were related. I've known quite a few mothers/daughters who shared a very complicated relationship. The line between love and hate was very fine. It all goes back to very primitive feelings, instincts. I love my mother, but there are times she drives me nuts and as crazy as it may sound I would strangle her! (which, as you can imagine, caused so many problems in my adult life! :D) Look at The Sopranos. Tony's relationship with that crone of his mother was the catalyst of 5 freaking seasons. I hate it when people say 'Oh they're not related... finally they can hate each other again!'. Or: 'Now that Cane is not her grandson, Katherine can kick his ass!'. Uh? She's loved these people until yesterday. If you love a person, you should love them no matter what their DNA is. The same goes for hatred IMHO.

Their blood tie should have made them even fiercer. Thing is - the writers weren't creative enough. They never draw on RL, they rarely look around to see how the world really turns. and how complicated relationships might be. They had Jill call Katherine mommy overnight! I mean, how ridicoulus was that?

I also agree that their feud had gotten really old and silly. It all started because Jill was a young and beautiful woman, while Katherine was ageing and spiralling out of control. Once Jill grew older, the feud was to take a new direction, but it all faded somehow. Don't get me wrong, I'll get a kick out of watching them spar again. I just don't really don't see the need to resort to such lenghts for them to go back at it.

This is EXACTLY right! Everything you posted makes sense. These two can STILL hate (or at least have the occasional fight with) each other while keeping what would have been the Chancellor family (Kay, Jill, Brock, Mackenzie, Cane, Billy, baby Delia, Chloe, and Esther) intact.

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This is EXACTLY right! Everything you posted makes sense. These two can STILL hate (or at least have the occasional fight with) each other while keeping the Chancellor family (Kay, Jill, Brock, Mackenzie, Cane, Billy, baby Delia, Chloe, and Esther) intact.

It's too late for that, they've already changed the core of their relationship to suit their mother-daughter relation.

I would think they bond that Katherine and Jill developed over the past 5 years as mother and daughter will add a new dimension to their relationship in the future, now that they aren't related.

I mean to bond with your archenemy, and then find out the two of you aren't related? It's a whole new dynamic.

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This storyline would work for me if this was all revealed as a DNA test mistake and was used to re-energize the Jill-Kay feud. Katherine gets sick, Jill pretends that she is her daughter to keep her happy, Katherine recovers, finds out the truth and accuses Jill for lying to her all along.

I just can't stand Jill call Katherine "mother", this is insane with their history. Not to mention that I still hope Jennifer Foster shows up in Genoa City as her aunt's assistant and we get an "All About Eve" storyline.. :)

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I just can't stand Jill call Katherine "mother", this is insane with their history.

It's definitely cringe worthy. Thank goodness we won't have to hear that much longer.

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I dont get it, are Jill and Katherine supposed to forget everythign that has happened between them over the past several years? Will they now stop loving each other and go back to being bitter rivals just bc they are no longer biologically related? I cant see how a DNA change now will erase all that has developed between them. Jill clearly loves Katherine and the feeling is mutual. I think people hate them being related bc it changed the dynamic between them from hating one another to loving the other but I dont think they can go back to the former. IMO that's a huge step backwards at this point. I cant see Katherine stop viewing Jill as her daughter regardless of what she finds out. and I deifnetly cant see them trying to destroy each other like they did in the 80s and 90s. The ship has sailed and I seriously think people need to get over it already.

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around the time Kay Alden was there.

Eh no.

Alden did great by Jess & Jill.

Jack Smith not so much.

It's definitely cringe worthy. Thank goodness we won't have to hear that much longer.

Amen.

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I mean to bond with your archenemy, and then find out the two of you aren't related? It's a whole new dynamic.

Not really.

That's pretty much always been their dynamic.

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I think in a way, undoing this, could add a whole new layer to Jill and Katherine's feud. To have developed such a relationship over the past few years, I don't think the writers would exactly go on ignoring it after the reveal. I think it would just add a certain vulnerability to Jill, one that she'll most likely won't show very often. Especially if Jill was to learn that her biological mother is dead.

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I HATE Jill is Kay's daughter with a white hot passion. It resulted in Kay and Jill forgetting 30 years of history, 30 years of venom and 30 years of fun for the fans.

All of this 'mother' garbage was terrible. It didn't help that Jack Smith sent Jess Walton and Jeanne Cooper to backburner hell till that hack bitch from the depths of hell LML took over.

Kay Alden did great by Jess Walton, remember her May/December romance?! Fabulous! Jill was a businesswoman!

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Kay Alden did great by Jess Walton, remember her May/December romance?! Fabulous! Jill was a businesswoman!

Was that the guy with the glasses who was originally played by Christopher Douglas?

I'd forgotten about him, he seemed to go on the backburner with the recast (or my memory might be wrong). I remember Brittany serenading him, or something.

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I didn't mind the original twist, but this one is great. Jill and Kay being lovey dovey was stupid. I have always rooted for Jill, but after the way she has treated everyone, even her own son, just to prop up her new son, is going to come back to bite her and I am all for it. Jill needs to go back to being the social climbing executive she played so well in the 90's. We also need to have a new man introduced who is worthy of a fierce woman like her.

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