Members DaytimeFan Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 MAB is a very sharp, decisive woman. My understanding is that if she sees a script she hates, it's a strike against a writer, another one, another strike, another one and BAM, fired. It's not about negotiating, it's not about cultivating talent. It's about a team that performs and doesn't need hand holding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 With the exception of Lisa Connor, all of these people joining Y&R are joining on a trial basis. Who knows if any or all of these people will last past their trails. Teresa Zimmerman probably has the best chance, given her connection to the Bell's, but I'm not so sure about the others. Has anyone figured out who the hell Jay Gibson is? Is he a friend of Maria's or something? He's written some decent episodes, but I've honestly never heard of him until he joined the writing team last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Toups Posted February 3, 2009 Author Administrator Share Posted February 3, 2009 How is she a hack? Just because she agreed with a horrible idea? I don't ever remember Lisa Connor ever being discussed before. Yeah, Jay's a FOM. They worked together at some art-thingy. http://www.psarts.org/Newsletter.pdf Of course I'm assuming it's the same Jay Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R Sinclair Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Didn't we Bury the H-Word, already? Along with "propping," "whitewashing," and "production model?" Well... okay... the last one's simply my pet peeve. But you get the idea. Anyway, HACK is being thrown around too generously. That isn't to say some head/mid-level/script writers don't deserve that title (McTavish, Higley, Bugler, etc.), but still. As much of a fan as I am of Michelle Patrick, I will never say "oh, the unabortion was wonderful because she thinks it was," but that won't make me say "she disagrees with me? HACK, HACK, HACKITY-HACK-HACK, HAAAAAACK!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adam Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 I was just about to post something like this, but you just so beautifully captured what I want to say so I won't bother now. Some people really need to open up a dictionary and absorb some new vocab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kubla Khan Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 The dictionary was written by HACKS!!! No Kendall or Zach entry, yo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 LML is a hack bitch from the depths of hell. Hack. Hack. Hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kubla Khan Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 What's with Cheryl Davis coming back? I mean, I like her, but it's like: "Well, Lisa's leaving...so I guess you'll have to do, Cheryl." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brimike Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 I love the direction this thread took from this afternoon. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brimike Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Wow, Soapsuds. I love hangin' with you on here, but you have a serious hatred of pretty much every writer from the last ten years. It's like every writer who was a member of a team that wrote a story you didn't like gets that title "hack". Can I ask who you think ISN'T a hack? (I promise, I'm not trying to be challenging. Just curious) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dan Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Ahem... From the great Jerry ver Dorn: " I think what should happen — and I've been working with a lot of producers and executive producers over the years — is you should grab and maintain and keep and treasure your core audience and just make little inroads into other audiences. They seem to try and want to say, 'Well, we don't want you any more. We want 18 to 49-year-old females with disposable income.' Then they take a hacksaw to the show and try to do things in a hurry and in daytime, the viewers don't like revolution — they like evolution." Not to mention that I have never thought of organic, character-driven writing as obsolete. Although Y&R may not be very ground-breaking or original, I think the fact that we can finally identify with a great majority of the characters is a mighty fine sign indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Toups Posted February 3, 2009 Author Administrator Share Posted February 3, 2009 I saw that Lisa De Cazotte was listed as Producer at the end of Monday's ep. I didn't see Friday's end credits, so anyone know if today was her first episode as Producer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brimike Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Mark, I totally agree with you on this, and yes - it's a worrisome pattern forming. The one thing I can say though, on the flip side, is that all three stories, while they used death as the catalyst, all had very different tones to them, and I wonder if that's the work of the lower level writers (mainly the script writers) acknowledging that. David/Sabrina was about anger, rage, vindictiveness. Kay's story, while incredibly moving, has an element of fun to it. From Murphy, to Jill vs. Esther, to the "kids'" involvement, there's something very entertaining about it within its own grief (I hesitate to say "camp", because it's not like David Vickeroshi, but it's as close to camp as Y&R gets without putting a shirtless guy in a cage), and from the early spoilers about Brad, it sounds like a lot of that will be about guilt over wasted heroism. So there definitely feels like there are quite different thematic elements to each story. Having said that, I think Y&R needs to put a kibosh on all funerals for the rest of 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Yes, every word here is right! I'm not really complaining, because I have greatly enjoyed the show. And you are also right, in that real effort has been made to have each story feel different. But it will behoove the team--those at the top--to find new ways of launching the next three month cycle. In the end, there will probably be explosions and blackouts and weddings and...I think finding high-concept launches is going to be an ongoing part of this team's methodology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 No, honey, whatever gave you that idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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