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4 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

I think the disturbing part in all of this is I honestly believed based on the special elections since DOBBS this was going to be a huge factor across the country. I''m not going to blame any minority for the fact that again Trump performed better than I expected.  I have to acknowledge that there are a ton of women who just don't seem to care or know these bans will never impact them because they have the latitude to go anywhere.

In addition, this country is broken. Seriously broken. Unfortunately we don't have a real reformer running.  That's not a dig on Harris.  It's just a fact.  The part I do know is that if Trump had Biden's numbers after 4 years, he'd win in a landslide because as broken as the media is, they appear to still have influence.

Based on the reports of more white women voting, I did wonder if they'd lean to Trump again. Maybe voters think they had their say in 2022, or maybe they actually believe Trump's BS, laundered by the media, that abortion is up to the states, and he has no say in the matter and he's actually pro-choice and the king of IVF.

I did think the media was losing influence, but clearly they are getting the result they wanted tonight, whether in spite of themselves or not.

I don't even want to think about the blame game. I am guilty of it myself, but it's clear a lot of different groups jumped to the right. Pointing fingers will only further fracture a coalition in whatever time we have left with any freedoms.

3 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

Oh boy, hearing Trump has picked up steam with Hispanic voters in Pennsylvania this time around. That’s not good. 🤬

It seems like the polls were right this year - the one time I very much wish that hadn't been the case.

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AP has called Oregon for Harris.
AP has called North Carolina for tr*mp

Per AP projections:
187  electoral votes for Kamala Harris
230 for tr*mp
121  not yet called
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538 total  (need 270 for majority)

Fyi, North Carolina is still very close,  so the AP felt a need to explain why it called North Carolina

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I just have a bad feeling. It's...just too bad the electorate has short memories and prejudices.

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2 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Nice knowing yall. Anyone who is not a cis, White male of money and power are fücked. Fully.

Sigh same 

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Voters in Missouri — the first state to make abortion illegal after Roe v. Wade — approved a constitutional amendment that protects abortion in state law. The citizen-led initiative petition will legalize abortion up to 24 weeks, handing Democrats a crucial win on a top campaign priority.

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I know this doesn't affect me anywhere near as much as it does all of you who live in the US, but it still makes me feel so depressed. Even if this turns around and Harris wins, the fact that this many people still vote for Trump is incomprehensible.

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Just now, janea4old said:

Voters in Missouri — the first state to make abortion illegal after Roe v. Wade — approved a constitutional amendment that protects abortion in state law. The citizen-led initiative petition will legalize abortion up to 24 weeks, handing Democrats a crucial win on a top campaign priority.

Which will mean squat when the GOP passes a national abortion ban. Just the truth.

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From the Phildelphia Inquirer, it looks like some regions of Pennsylvania went for Trump -  but it's too close to call in Philadelphia, and that could make the difference?

"election officials in the Philadelphia area were predicting they would finish counting votes by Wednesday evening at the latest even as they have hundreds of thousands more ballots to tally.

Under state law most counties in the state will continue counting ballots overnight, not stopping the counting process until all votes have been counted (aside from provisional ballots and others that are voted on by county election boards days later)."

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Just now, Wendy said:

Which will mean squat when the GOP passes a national abortion ban. Just the truth.

At this point I won't be surprised if by tomorrow night we're going to find out that Trump won the election. I expect the Republicans to take control of both the House and the Senate too. We're going to need to figure out how we're going to survive another Trump presidency. 

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And AZ is obviously going red since the GOP registrations outpaced Dems. Although I know the deadline to vote has been extended. So Lord knows when we get those results.

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16 minutes ago, Wendy said:

And AZ is obviously going red since the GOP registrations outpaced Dems. Although I know the deadline to vote has been extended. So Lord knows when we get those results.

azcentral.com (arizona newspaper) still has it tied at 49.7% tr*ump  and  49.5% Harris.   And Jill Stein at 0.4%

 

 

26 minutes ago, Toups said:

AP calls Bernie Moreno in Ohio.   Republicans control the Senate now. 

So far, I'm seeing 50 Republicans in the Senate and 41 Democrats, with nine uncalled. 
If the Senate ends up 50/50,  then the Senate is controlled by whichever party wins as President/Vice President.   (as the VP casts the deciding vote in a tied Senate).

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