The Politics Thread

[Maxim]

Still in the media... barely any focus on the innocent person who LOST their life. I think I've had enough internet FOR THE whole month. I feel... emotionally SPENT. 

[DramatistDreamer]

Apparently Trump shouted “Fight! Fight!” and threw up his fist. What was his intention in doing that? 

The Secret Service kept trying to usher him away from the scene to safety and he kept resisting and talking about let him get his shoes. Obviously stunned and not in crisis mode.

[DRW50]

Very convenient. So much about this is not adding up to me.

Edited July 14, 2024 by DRW50

[NothinButAttitude]

I'm waking up to hear the shooter was a Republican. Yikes. 

But I share the same sentiment as you all as "something smells rotten in Denmark." 

Regardless, I don't think this is about to move the needle or make Trump into some victim. If anything, this is going to push sane undecided voters even more toward Biden b/c they're going to be sick of the violence and simply want normalcy. 

[DramatistDreamer]

A weird choice to the “flight or fight” query. I’m no conspiracy theorist. It just seems like an odd response in a crisis situation. Reminiscent of January 6th 2021. 

Someone at the rally reportedly declared him a martyr. Another claimed this would win him the election. His fans are nutty, for sure.

The shooter’s motives did come to mind, if those rally goers’ exhortations played into motive at the risk of speculating, which normally I am loathe to do in such situations. Maybe the information will reveal motives, maybe not.

[Maxim]

People cheering on assassination attempts in YouTube comments section and acting like that Sicko is justified in what he did ... Is the level of Ugly that I am not able to stomach anymore. I shall go on a full internet strike and stop reading comments or watch news. Sick, sick, sick people.

 

Also now... People daring to criticize president Biden for expressing his well wishes and being a Good human being... shame on them. President Biden is a masterclass in grace and honor.

[NothinButAttitude]

The plot thickens...

 

I am assuming that the shooter might've been trying to jumpstart a race war.

[marceline]

Here's my theory and I admit it's just that, a theory. His entire view of the world is that it's one big reality TV show.

So much of the discourse on dementia has been wrong and intentionally hurtful but Trump has some fairly advanced dementia. He only has a handful of responses to unrehearsed situations. He will always pump his fist or give a thumbs up. Always give the same tough guy squint in photos. 

[Errol]

I don’t discuss politics on this forum whatsoever, but I completely disagree with this thinking.

If I was running for the position of president and someone just tried to assassinate me on live television due to a disagreement with my politics, I would have done exactly the same thing.

This was a moment that will go down in the history books in which someone tried to kill a former president, who also happens to be a presidential candidate for the next election, and he miraculously survived. He needed to let the world know that he was okay and that something as big as this attempt would not stop him.

The usage of “fight,” IMO, was also to bring the message home that for whatever reason he is running for office of the president, there are those out there trying to stop him as witnessed yesterday evening. His message was to say he wasn’t stopping and that supporters should continue to fight for him and their reasoning they support him. 

[Maxim]

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Amazing words from President Biden.

 

[Maxim]

Even though I think some people will have a hard time understanding this, I agree 100 percent with this analysis.  

[Vee]

Two things can be true. One: Trump believes the entire world is beholden to him and is ultimately just entertainment and a big TV show, and that nobody is any less out for themselves and craven for the spotlight than he is. And two: Trump knows doing what he did on the national stage is a boon to his campaign. So ultimately both Errol and marceline are right on a certain level, IMO.

I do believe Trump is cognitively impaired. But I think this all weaves together into the same things you're both talking about.

Edited July 14, 2024 by Vee

[Soapsuds]

Oh damn!

Jacob Young is MAGA!!

And he was such a nice guy.

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[Vee]

 

[Maxim]

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President Biden:

My fellow Americans, I want to speak to you tonight about the need for us to lower the temperature in our politics and to remember, while we may disagree, we are not enemies. We're neighbors. We're friends, co-workers, citizens, and, most importantly, we are fellow Americans. We must stand together. 

Yesterday’s shooting at Donald Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania calls on all of us to take a step back, take stock of where we are, how we go forward from here. Thankfully, former President Trump is not seriously injured.  I spoke with him last night.  I’m grateful he’s doing well. And Jill and I keep him and his family in our prayers.

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I believe politics ought to be an arena for peaceful debate, to pursue justice, to make decisions guided by the Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.  We stand for an America not of extremism and fury but of decency and grace.

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Tonight, I want to speak to what we do know: A former president was shot.  An American citizen killed while simply exercising his freedom to support the candidate of his choosing.

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You know, the political rhetoric in this country has gotten very heated.  It’s time to cool it down.  And we all have a responsibility to do that.

 

 

Woah, what at amazing, inspirational man. The whole world should take this as an EXAMPLE.