Members DRW50 Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 It would depend on who takes over that role. China and Russia won't be any better. Europe is fracturing and Merkel, the main one holding things together, is likely in her last term of office. The UN itself has no problem turning a blind eye to hate speech, bigotry, and dictatorships - they are just more subtle than the idiots we now have in office. America has been severely diminished in global power over the last few decades anyway, whether it be W alienating the world, or the virulent racism and ugliness Obama faced from so many so-called leaders like Duterte. I do think Trump has sped it up, but it's going to happen no matter who or what. I mostly fear what is next to come - for them and for us. At least this idiot won't have any role: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/29/un-trump-migration-agency-snub-nomination-rejected-iom 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members DramatistDreamer Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 Is ICE collapsing? Sure looks like it. From this vantage point, it doesn't look like country is leading, the U.S., in particular looks pretty isolated. Why does the world need a leader anyway? That model looks antiquated now, Trump's WH has brought that into sharp relief. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 That'd be something, at least. A start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) And probably a lot worse, even now. Who else really has the military to be a global power on the same level? I was thinking just the other day, who will save us from ourselves if things really go to hell? Then I thought of China and what they have done to their population. No one stopped them because the price would be far too high even if it were possible. The same is true for us. I think a lot of nations will find a better economic and ecological partner in China, as long as they can ignore the gross human rights violations. Plus when it comes to xenophobia is there a country more plagued with it than China? I guess it'll be interesting to see how things shake out. Edited June 30, 2018 by Juliajms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 Is Homan the one who gave that awful interview on TV a few weeks ago? (I know that doesn't narrow it down) The only thing that makes me wary is Trump already has plans to combine and shut down so many departments, likely to make them even more subservient to him. I wonder what he will do with an immigration department entirely of his own making... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 Yes and also a sign of how strange things are. We have such a clash of ideology going on. We careen disaster to hope and back again sometimes in a matter of days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 Yep 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 Isn't that what Trumpists and Bernie Bros all wanted? To 'shake things up'? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 Today in 2018: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 More tariff winning, this time from GM: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/business/automakers-tariffs-job-cuts.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 Meanwhile, Hillary tells it: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 It's exhausting having a president this damn dumb. And apparently, it's not just him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I Am A Swede Posted June 29, 2018 Members Share Posted June 29, 2018 Oh, how I wish Hillary would have been president instead of the A**hole otherwise known as Trump. I realize that she has her faults as well, but compared to T she's practically flawless. I know I would breathe easier with her in the White House than I do now..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wendy Posted June 30, 2018 Members Share Posted June 30, 2018 At this point? I think my dog would make a better, smarter, more thoughtful president. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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