He's caving:

 

 

A remarkable about-face after Trump and WH dug in for days and faced growing criticism from both parties in the US and internationally as well. But we wait for the details on what he signs. https://t.co/UgZbUp6bZl

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) June 20, 2018

Trump preparing to issue an executive order as soon as today to end the separation of families at the border by indefinitely detaining parents and children together. ⁦@maggieNYT⁩ ⁦@shearm⁩ https://t.co/5gtO6SRSmP

— Peter Baker (@peterbakernyt) June 20, 2018

Melania's spin - sure thing, lady:

cont’d: Melania has had several private conversations with Trump, apparently pushing him to do all he can to keep families at the border intact, whether via a legislative route, or acting alone to stop the process.

— Kate Bennett (@KateBennett_DC) June 20, 2018

Meanwhile:

 

The child separation nightmare is causing @PressSec frustration, as Stephen Miller becomes face of the issue. My latest https://t.co/o4juizUrv0

— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) June 20, 2018

 

Yeah, it's not good. That said, he is caving. And it's a start, and it proves pushing and fighting works, as it has before.

The whole gradually getting people to accept families being locked up like animals sounds like something Jeff Sessions would have come up with. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the plan all along (maybe one Trump wasn't fully let in on). The good thing (if there is anything good in this) is now that attention has been focused on this issue, hopefully many of the people who are angry will remain angry over the policies and the issue won't leave the spotlight. 

This is part of why we've seen him consistently take the hardest line position on any issue.

Terrorism: We should kill the families of Terrorists.
Abortion: Women should be punished.
Immigration: Build a wall, separate families
Muslims: Ban them all
etc etc

— Katy Tur (@KatyTurNBC) June 20, 2018

I'm asked why the President was so furious with me in December 2015. Why did he call for my firing? Why did he point me out in a crowd and indirectly endanger my safety? Why did he boycott NBC after that?

Because he thought I made him look weak.

— Katy Tur (@KatyTurNBC) June 20, 2018

It could shatter the "powerful, strong" image he was creating for himself. Wipe away the illusion.

— Katy Tur (@KatyTurNBC) June 20, 2018

Its why so many of those buildings have brass polished to look like gold.

Image is everything.

He wants to appear strong.
12:58 PM - 20 Jun 2018

— Katy Tur (@KatyTurNBC) June 20, 2018

 

4 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 I wouldn't be surprised if this was the plan all along (maybe one Trump wasn't fully let in on).

 

I'm sorry, but please, no.

 

There was never any plan. There is never any plan with Trump. There is just impulsive, vile behavior and rash mania that he reverses and enacts on whims. It's happened countless times and it will happen again and again and again until he is removed.

 

What is happening is awful, and the 'fix' is awful, no one disputes that. But it is a cave, and it is a start at making him cave further. Suggesting otherwise is not only inaccurate, but it is defeatism and it's factually wrong. It also enables Trump and his people - imbuing them with incredible powers of omniscience and foresight which they simply have never had.

 

And I'm not saying this about you but about other people I see this suggestion from online - I think for some folks it is a kind of strange coping mechanism. They'd rather believe the man has a master plan and is unbeatable, because the reality - that he is a lunatic with no impulse control - is too much to bear.

Edited June 20, 20187 yr by Vee

WTF? 

 

 

Edited June 20, 20187 yr by dragonflies

It was, he said something stupid while raging about the baby camps.

I get what you're saying, and on many Trump matters (especially trade) I agree, but the money that can be made off of these centers and Sessions' deep ties to the big bucks made from private prisons really makes me feel like something else was going on with this choice.

2 minutes ago, Vee said:

It was, he said something stupid while raging about the baby camps.

 

From reading that thread it sounds like it was Peter Fonda. I didn't really even know he was still around to be honest.

It was him, yes. He was very angry but went too far.

 

 

EXCLUSIVE: Longtime Trump attorney Michael Cohen resigns as deputy finance chair of the RNC's Finance Committee, sources tell @ABC. https://t.co/9onUqCM8Bm pic.twitter.com/74VIOFS1ks

— ABC News (@ABC) June 20, 2018

United asks U.S. government not to fly separated immigrant children on our aircraft. pic.twitter.com/MPPbhO6aqV

— United Airlines (@united) June 20, 2018

Most likely, Trump's latest EO - which I think is illegal - gets struck down, and he then plays 'don't blame me' to his base by blaming the courts. It's his typical move when he loses.

33 minutes ago, Vee said:

Yeah, it's not good. That said, he is caving. And it's a start, and it proves pushing and fighting works, as it has before.

Yes. Also, I think the courts will stop him from keeping people locked up long term. At least I hope so.

12 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Big upset in Miami-Dade, giving Democrats control of the county board of commissioners.

 

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article213376864.html

 

It's about time, Florida but I'll truly be impressed when Rubio gets tossed out for someone with a heart, conscience and a spine.

 

There should be a picture of Nielsen in the dictionary by the definition of oblivious.  Who goes to a Mexican restaurant after trying to 'sell' the notion of forced separation of families only to send children from Central American countries to internment camps?

If she had gone to a Mexican-American owned restaurant, surely they would've spit in her food.

 

Part one of a video of @mdc_dsa @DC_IWW and others shouting DHS Secretary Nielsen out of a restaurant. She doesn’t need to be kidnapping #immigrantchildren to deserve this treatment. Don’t give the regime a moment of rest. #KeepFamilesTogether pic.twitter.com/B3RfraOk1E

— Smash Racism DC (@SmashRacismDC) June 20, 2018

Edited June 20, 20187 yr by DramatistDreamer

Just now, DramatistDreamer said:

Who goes to a Mexican restaurant after trying to 'sell' the notion of forced separation of families only to send children from Central American countries in internment camps?

 

 

 

That was a stunt. Just like when Mike Pence went to a football game so everyone could see him walk out because of kneeling players.

51 minutes ago, Vee said:

It was, he said something stupid while raging about the baby camps.

He's an A-List actor though? 

 

 

 

15 minutes ago, marceline said:

 

That was a stunt. Just like when Mike Pence went to a football game so everyone could see him walk out because of kneeling players.

Bingo. We need to stop believing these people care or can be shamed.

Care, probably not. Can be shamed or at least embarrassed, yes. I personally absolutely believe Nielsen was that clueless. People like her are everyday.