The Politics Thread

[DramatistDreamer]

[Juliajms]

But that would mean people like the Kennedys/Clintons/Obamas would have to keep their nose out of it too. I'd rather have people who want to gut public education out of power. I'll admit my strongest bias is against the ultra wealthy, but some of them are a force for good in certain areas.

[I Am A Swede]

 

In other news: water is wet and the sun is hot

[dragonflies]

Love it!
 

 

[Fevuh]

Virginia's Governor's race is at stake...Donna Brazile can go screw herself.  Not a fan anymore.  She is wrecking us....she could have made a statement at any time and chose to do it right before this election.  She could have done it, if she knew it - MONTHS ago.  Chose to do it now.  To me - she's not a Democrat, she's a opportunist.  This race is tightening, Northam will probably lose, and I blame her.  Hope she loves her life when Republicans rule the South, North and all over.  Go Donna.  You did a great job.  Now I'll be accused of attacking a woman. As a Gay Male, I'll be accused of attacking a woman.  She stinks.

 

Apparently she wanted to be the new Comey and announce it right before an election and then claim stupidity, and harm, and sadness, etc. etc. etc.  Whatever honey. 

Edited November 3, 2017 by Fevuh

[Eric83]

Donna Brazille lied by omission when making her claims yesterday. The deal between the Clinton campaign and the DNC was not to go into effect until the general election. The DNC clearly states in the memo that the contract was only if Hillary became the nominee and they were free to make deals with other campaigns vying for the nomination. Once again, a Hillary Clinton “scandal” is a big fat nothing Burger. 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/memo-reveals-details-hillary-clinton-dnc-deal-n817411

Edited November 3, 2017 by Eric83

[Fevuh]

I'm afraid.   Even truth is too late.  It's too late.  I'm seriously scared and afraid.  The toothless white rednecks will come out and vote for Gillespie, and that's coming from a Gay White Redneck.  They speak in small sentences and it resonates with them and they don't get a bigger picture other than the hope of a $500 tax refund. 

[Juliajms]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say there aren't going to be a lot of people defending DB.

 

Did she do this just to promote her book? I truly do not get why she would revisit this topic now. I'm completely fatigued by the subject of who did what in the election of 2016. I don't care, it's done.

[Fevuh]

I've unfriended so many people.  Conservatives. When I argue with them  - they just say "We're confused why you're so angry that Hillary didn't win?  Why are you mad/angry"?  I'm like. I don't give a freakin *UCK about Hillary.  I really DON'T.  I'm angry because you're STUPID.  This has become a reality series and it's MY country.  I have never seen anything like Donald Trump.  There should be NO way Twitter should be a way of a President of communicating.

[GSGfan2017]

@Nothin'ButAttitudeOuch!

[Khan]

 

No, you're right.  When I made that statement, I didn't take into consideration people like the Kennedys, the Clintons, and the Obamas.  It just seems to me that some wealthy people (like Betsybug) hold this notion that a public school education is a dead end, and that public schools are just dens of iniquity where their kids are liable to acquire "bad habits," and that makes my teeth itch.

 

Me, too, lol.  If I had funds to donate, I'd donate them in Bubbles' name as well.  And not just to Planned Parenthood, but to any organizations that advocate for LGBT-related causes.  I think it'd be the least I could do as an American (who dislikes Bubbles with a passion).

 

 

What is it about the Democrats always shooting themselves in the foot at the worst possible moment?  There are a lot of reasons as to why we have Trump in the WH today, and one of them is because the Democratic Party often doesn't have the sense God gave a jackass.

 

For me, the fact that she felt such sadness over having to tell Bernie what she THOUGHT she knew said everything.

Edited November 4, 2017 by Khan

[JaneAusten]

I do think the Clintons and Obama's are better when it comes to public education - well a little. One big issue I had with Obama

 

I am a former HS Math teacher in Chicago Public Schools and was still teaching there when Arnie Duncan(Obama's Sec of Education) was closing schools, consolidating, and was behind the first few Charter Schools. Obama appointed him his first Sec of Education. And when DeVos talked about Charter schools, Duncan even commended her. He, Rahm Emmanual Obama's former chief of staff, both are charter school advocates and Chicago has a significant number of them now. The new education funding bill just signed allocates a tax credit for Illinois residents who donate money to private schools as long as that money is used for disadvantages students. That tax credit comes our of the state of Illinois public education budget.

 

Emmanual and Duncan both believe that the solution to public school funding is to privatize them partially through the charter school model. And by the way the charter schools now have lower scholastic achievement than the public schools. 

 

So what I am saying is that I don't buy that Obama would have people serving for him, especially as his Sec of Education, who's beliefs were in contrast.

 

The one positive aspect of the Sec of Education is that they have limited influence on the public school system, Sure there are changes they can impact, but the budgets and curriculum are controlled entirely by each state and school district.

[hsfolk]

and I just made a donation to the NRA in her name

[Khan]

1) No, you didn't.

2) That's your right (if you did, which, if I wasn't clear before, I doubt).

3) Shut up.

[DramatistDreamer]

Donna Brazile is putting about a book and Politico published an excerpt for that post.

I wonder what Faustian bargain made that timely piece happen?

 

So. much. winning.

Edited November 4, 2017 by DramatistDreamer