Yeah, you could be right. It could be Natalie the one who figures things out (look how well it turned out for her the last time ).

It was definitely a clever line by the writers though.

I think it will be Jared. All the heavy handed references from Renee and some others to his propensity to skirt ethics. I think he's going to figure out that there was a baby switch, and keep it a secret to protect Jessica and the Buchanans. Just my honest speculation.

Today's scenes with Viki and Star were heavy handed too. In a good way though. I find it comforting to have some road map to follow, so if RC wants to lay a trail of bread crumbs for me to follow, I will hope that birds don't eat them.

I find it comforting to have some road map to follow, so if RC wants to lay a trail of bread crumbs for me to follow, I will hope that birds don't eat them.

LOL!

Let's hope the bird's name isn't Brian.

BTW! Speaking of extraordinary acting? I thought the actress who portrays Dr. Joplin stole the show today. She was amazing. And anytime I say that about somebody who shares scenes with Robin Strasser (who is the BEST -- don't argue with me, grrrrrrrrr) they must be dayum good!

I totally agree, and based on what I saw today, I fear that the bullet shot that Nora heard was not coming from Todd's room....

LOL!

Let's hope the bird's name isn't Brian.

That was unkind! You just burst my bubble. He manages to screw up everything.

Edited December 4, 200817 yr by rhinohide

I give in--who or what is Jowars? I'm guessing a character or couple nickname I'm not scanning...

I give in--who or what is Jowars? I'm guessing a character or couple nickname I'm not scanning...

God NO!!! A dreaded time in OLTL history, in which two seemingly sane women, fought over John McBain....Their names were Evangeline and Natalie...Many were wounded, slaughtered, and some never recovered and continue to war against each other on un-moderated boards. It was a sad time.

I confess I was totally immersed in the Jowars. It's humiliating. Perhaps the most humiliating thing I've ever allowed myself to participate in...

Don't sell yourself short quite yet. It's just as humiliating to have now turned your ire towards Bree Williamson and her fanbase.

Woah. Miaow!

And let us never talk of the Jo-Wars again. *shudder* I still have nightmares of Nat and Vange tied to a stake as McNostril jumps in slo-mo through the flames to free -- which one? Tune in next time! What a black hole of SUCK McBain is to the show.

Another good, soapy episode. Jan Brady was great as Dr. Joplin. And TSJ and ES were great. I thought I'd get tired of all the Todd confrontations, but not so far.

Nora really bugs me. Just thought I'd share.

Edited December 4, 200817 yr by Cat

I'm watching the Todd and Viki scenes and I really wish Todd would just tell Viki to shut up..He cut her out of his life months ago back when she wouldn't help him in the Sam custody trial, he had no reason to help or care when she basically said to hell with him back then.

Not justifying Todd's action with Marty, just saying why did Viki really think Todd would care enough..

Bess just grabbing the doctor's glasses is one of the funniest things I've seen on a soap in a while.

Don't sell yourself short quite yet. It's just as humiliating to have now turned your ire towards Bree Williamson and her fanbase.

Not me. I know there are some who have. I am not a Jessica fan, but I think Bree is one of the more capable performers on the show. Very talented. I sometimes get my digs in at Jessica, but it's purely because of some of her behavior during the Antonio/Jess/Nash stuff and the Tess trying to kill Jared and Natalie. If anything I am far more annoyed with some of my previous allies in the Jowars for their current behavior -- time to move on people! LOL. But I try to keep ALL of that contained elsewhere. SON is such a civil place to come and have sane discussions with people who aren't all caught up in that nonsense.

And let us never talk of the Jo-Wars again. *shudder* I still have nightmares of Nat and Vange tied to a stake as McNostril jumps in slo-mo through the flames to free -- which one? Tune in next time! What a black hole of SUCK McBain is to the show.

Another good, soapy episode. Jan Brady was great as Dr. Joplin. And TSJ and ES were great. I thought I'd get tired of all the Todd confrontations, but not so far.

Nora really bugs me. Just thought I'd share.

Agree Cat. Sorry I brought it up.

Nora bugs me too. Always has.

Edited December 4, 200817 yr by rhinohide

I'm watching the Todd and Viki scenes and I really wish Todd would just tell Viki to shut up..He cut her out of his life months ago back when she wouldn't help him in the Sam custody trial, he had no reason to help or care when she basically said to hell with him back then.

Not justifying Todd's action with Marty, just saying why did Viki really think Todd would care enough..

You do sometimes have to wonder at Viki's constant moralizing to Todd and then her consistent suprise that all of it was for naught. He has never had a conscience, or at least not one that prevented him from doing whatever he thought would best serve his interests. At some point, Blair and Viki just look stupid for their expectations that he will behave differently. Reminds me of that fable where the scorpion convinces the frog to swim him across a creek. The frog keeps refusing, insisting that the scorpion will sting him, but eventually agrees. Sure enough half way across the creek, the scorpion stings the frog and as the frog begins to die he says "What have you done? Now we'll both die!" and the scorpion replies "I am just doing what scorpions do."

You do sometimes have to wonder at Viki's constant moralizing to Todd and then her consistent suprise that all of it was for naught. He has never had a conscience, or at least not one that prevented him from doing whatever he thought would best serve his interests. At some point, Blair and Viki just look stupid for their expectations that he will behave differently. Reminds me of that fable where the scorpion convinces the frog to swim him across a creek. The frog keeps refusing, insisting that the scorpion will sting him, but eventually agrees. Sure enough half way across the creek, the scorpion stings the frog and as the frog begins to die he says "What have you done? Now we'll both die!" and the scorpion replies "I am just doing what scorpions do."

I did enjoy ES and TSJ's acting in the scene, it's just I feel like it's the same convo they've always had. And in general sanctimonious characters begin to grate on my nerves.

I did enjoy ES and TSJ's acting in the scene, it's just I feel like it's the same convo they've always had. And in general sanctimonious characters begin to grate on my nerves.

ITA. That's another reason I don't like Nora very much. And it's so funny, because everybody on soaps lies, cheats, steals, connives at some point. But it's the characters like Nora, Viki, Jessica that do it, and the point is always how hard it is for them and how awful they feel about it, but once they get caught like everybody else, it's almost forgotten and they just continue to go about their business preaching to everybody, even though they themselves have committed similar sins. I just never get it.

Wow. Joplin offed herself quicker than expected.