November 10-14, 2008

[marcum]

thats right 1.3

[sonyab1974]

Huh? It does? Where?

No not March.. February.

Huh?! I haven't heard that.

[marceline]

No doubt Frons floves those OLTL numbers. Now he can turn the show into a festival of dead babies, rape and misogyny. It breaks my heart that women tuned in for this.

[Soapsuds]

I haven't watched B&B since this summer so don't know what is going on. ATWT was ok/mediocre so I am glad they didn't get a rise. Some was good but the rest was bad. GL is just bad all around.

[Becki]

Glad to see Y&R go up. It really has been fabulous!

[marla0518]

well, well, well....Y & R did not make the 4.0 a certain fanbase swore we would get with SHICK in Paris leading the way...can't wait to see the daily's!!!! with all the hoopla of the remote shooting in Paris....I expected better.....If I was MAB I would start shopping around for a new job!!!!

Y & R has lost 876,000 for the same period last year!!!!!

Ratings for the week November 12-16, 2007

(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)

Total Viewers

1. Y&R 5,752,000 (+281,000/+119,000)

2. B&B 3,922,000 (+54,000/-362,000)

3. GH 3,294,000 (+151,000/-210,000)

4. ATWT 3,203,000 (+233,000/-217,000)

5. OLTL 2,847,000 (+188,000/-278,000)

6. DAYS 2,688,000 (+145,000/-592,000)

7. GL 2,685,000 (+115,000/-342,000)

8. AMC 2,607,000 (+127,000/-492,000)

[Y&RWorldTurner]

I don't recall any fanbase saying that here on SON.

Y&R might be down year to year, but whatever. There's numerous other reasons for that, Shick not being one of the main reasons.

This is the best the show has been in a long time, but I don't expect 4.0's anymore. There's more to Y&R than Phyllis, maybe you should know that.

Y&R is also quite successful on SoapNet and on various internet sites. If we added Y&R's SoapNet totals to what it brings in on CBS, the show would have close to the same ratings it had a year ago.

[marla0518]

it's called an OPINION.....and mine stands....the sweeps has not done what they are suppose to do...the #'s speak for themselves...almost ONE Million less viewers then last year....it says it all

where did you see me say anything about Phyllis???? the entire Paris crap sucked....from the acting to the blue screen to the storyline.....sorry...but I stand by my OPINION.

[dm.]

Definitely. Enough with the Phick/Shick stuff.

[MarkH]

Well, this compelled me to do more numbers.

Last week, I said that (proportionally) ATWT was the biggest ratings loser in 2008, with a 29% difference between its 2008 maximum and minimum during the year.

With the new low for GL HH ratings, GL is the new loser: 30% difference between its 2008 max and min HH rating.

The other two bottom shows, AMC and OLTL, have lost proportionately THE LEAST, and have actually rebounded a little. There can be no doubt that the GL production model, lack of history, lack of veterans, lack of umbrella stories, etc. have damaged the GL brand. The experiment has failed, sadly. The Jack Peyton axiom also tells us they cannot fix this.

I cannot feel anything but sadness for the fans who have invested a part of their lives in this this show.

Using the 2008 maxima and minima for all shows as my guide, I was compelled to compute the AVERAGE weekly loss of viewers (in %) for each show. This is very rough, because some shows HAVE bounced back from the minima....but it is a useful little comparison tool.

Based on their 2008 maximums, what % of viewers are soaps shedding EVERY WEEK in 2008?

(I know that soaps go up and down from week to week, but when you look at the long-haul trend, what % of viewers were lost, on average, weekly in 2008?)

GL 0.70% lost weekly

ATWT 0.67% lost weekly

DAYS 0.58% lost weekly

GH 0.54% lost weekly

Y&R 0.52% lost weekly

B&B 0.47% lost weekly

AMC 0.41% lost weekly

OLTL 0.32% lost weekly

So, I mean, REALLY put these numbers into perspective!

First, it really takes nothing to do the math and see when each show gets to zero. Just numbing.

But, too see how much sh*t GL (and, actually, ATWT) is in: They are losing (proportionately) twice as many viewers weekly as OLTL. Given that they are already at the bottom of the ladder....well....

I feel like we need a moment of silence.

[dragonflies]

Ugh just great, now Frons is gonna think this is the kind of crap people want to see(cause of a ratings rise) and we'll get more of it.

[marceline]

Funny, I feel the opposite. I feel like we need a New Orleans style wake complete with jazz music and bourbon. We need to wave goodbye and close the casket.

[shadow]

Whats with the name calling. Your entire popst which had some merit is totally negated by the name calling. The poster is allowed to his/her opinion, RME!

Damn somebody needs to put GL out of its misery Stat, WOW!

[Soapsuds]

I didnt find the Paris remote that great either. But it was nice seeing Ashley and the whole Katherine storyline rocked last week with the return of Nina and other favorites. I think that's what brought in the increase not the Paris remote.

[Becki]

I believe the show as a whole is so much better than it's been. For me it's much more than the Paris remote...it's all the actors and their performances of incredibly written scripts. It's the show going back to it's roots and being true to the history of the show and it's characters. THAT is why I think the ratings are up.