KNOTS LANDING

[SoapDope]

Yes, nerdy little Arthur was a scene stealer. He was about 4 ft 11 and drove a Gremlin. I laughed when he drove Ginger home and before she could get out of the car he was already running up to her house wanting to take a look....LOL They should have made him recurring.

If Lucy had visited again, I can picture Val introducing him to her " Look Lucy you and Arthur are the same height". They never showed his Mom. I can kind of picture someone like Martha Raye playing her or maybe Sandra Gould.

Edited September 10, 2024 by SoapDope

[Soaplovers]

Her best scene was the final scene in season 3 episode 3...when she had Karen Erin Molly...she was subdued and was note perfect.

 

Also, season 3 was Michele Lee's best season acting wise...less Broadway, more subtle acting.

Shame season 4 she was back to chewing scenery. 

[All My Shadows]

Ooooh, I can answer this one. Somewhere in season 6, there's like a 2-episode arc where a man expresses interest in buying KLM. Karen is against it at first because of course it's like selling Sid's dream, but Eric eventually convinces her to sell because he's not interested in running it as Karen focuses her attention on her other business endeavors.

Edited September 10, 2024 by All My Shadows

[Khan]

LOL!!

I didn't mind Kenny's being involved in the music industry - although, given Richard's crack about him and Ginger getting married on an incoming wave, you'd think Kenny would've been a former professional surfer or something - but I would've explained that Kenny and Ginger were once in a rock band - he was the lead guitarist and songwriter; she was the "girl singer" - but when the hits dried up, so to speak, they moved to the suburbs, he transitioned to producing, while she became an elementary school music teacher.  That way, Ginger's sudden desire to be a professional singer (again) in S4 would make more sense.

Of course, this is from a (bad) half-hour comedy and not a drama series, but this is pretty much how I would've set up KL at the beginning:

Couple #1: Young newlyweds.

Couple #2: Couple in their late 30's/early 40's.

Couple #3: Older, retired couple.

(Just please ignore the cheesy theme song, lol).

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Edited September 10, 2024 by Khan

[Soaplovers]

I liked that show...but I was a very small child that loved anything set in a city.

[Khan]

And I loved watching ANY show that was about adults, because most of the youth-oriented shows that were on at the time just seemed so stupid to me.  KL ended the summer before I started high school; yet, I probably was its' youngest, biggest fan, lol!

[Liberty City]

In the second-part of the third season premiere. Wow.

[SoapDope]

 

I never understood the appeal of Jay Thomas. The industry just tried to make him happen by putting him in several series and guest appearances. After that Married People series ended, he was immediately put in "Love & War" with Susan Dey. After the first season Dey was fired by Diane English because she claimed Dey was not capable of comedy and lacked chemistry with Thomas. She was replaced in Season 2 with Annie Potts. Dey did comedy on The Partridge Family and was perfectly capable. 

[Liberty City]

Oh wow.... the ending of S03E02 when Karen is told.... so eerie and so well done. Wow.

[Reverend Ruthledge]

Now that you say it, I remember that. I forgot about it, I guess, because it seemed like a throwaway mention and was quickly forgotten (I'm surprised it continued for two episodes). At least they mentioned it! Thanks for that, All My Shadows. 

[Soaplovers]

Season 10, KLM is mentioned because Olivia's main love Harold mentions to Abby that he got a job there so it existed...just off screen.

I wondered what happened to the cable station that Abby was running.  Did Gary and her decide in the divorce to sell it...or was someone else in charge.  That stopped being featured after season 8...and Abby was back at Lotus Point in season 9/early season 10 full time.

[Franko]

If Knots still wanted to acknowledge Dallas in 1989, then Sue Ellen's revenge movie about J.R. should have been a revenge TV movie airing on Pacific World Cable.

[SoapDope]

LOL...That would have been great. I can picture Karen inviting everyone over to watch making popcorn. Val would watch it through her fingers when it got to the parts about her, Gary & Lucy. 

[Khan]

Remember, too, that he had a pretty good shot at becoming a regular on "Cheers" as Eddie LeBec until he badmouthed Rhea Perlman on the radio.  He also was a regular during the second season of "Mork & Mindy," a season when both a timeslot change and cast overhaul caused M&M to drop out of the Nielsen Top 20 after finishing its' first season at #3, behind "Laverne & Shirley" and "Three's Company."

Personally, I think KL missed a golden opportunity to go sorta meta and have Val develop "Capricorn Crude" into the kind of trashy miniseries that was really popular at that time.  Imagine, for example, Val collaborating with the hack screenwriter who's been hired to co-write the teleplay and who wants (on orders from the producers or network) to make the miniseries even more salacious than the book; or the young, Pia Zadora-esque strumpet (maybe played by Kelli Maroney) who "shadows" Val in an attempt to portray her as accurately as possible.

Edited September 11, 2024 by Khan

[SoapDope]

UGH! I remember him on Mork & Mindy with Gina Hecht. He was also a semi regular on Murphy Brown (another Diane English series) during it's entire run. LOL at badmouthing Rhea Perlman. Like she would not hear about that ?

The trashy mini series idea sounds hilarious. The teaming of the hack screenwriter idea was done in the 1997 reunion. Val is asked to write the screenplay about her latest book "Hostage". They team her with playboy Clay McKinney who takes credit with helping her write the screenplay even though he just goofs off. He makes advances on her after a party and she pushes him. The next morning his dead body is found floating in the pool. Val lies to the police when they find an earring and asks if it's hers.