It seems ages like daytime has done any good racy love scenes. What were the last ones? Early Sonny and Carly? Brooke and Deacon?

Is the problem all those insta couples or does daytime just no longer know how to do good titilliating love scenes?

One would think with the ratings falling they would remember the good old tried and true "Sex sells" mantra.

Raciness has nothing to do with it IMO.

Love scenes aren't interesting because the couples aren't interesting. And the couples aren't interesting because the characters individually are not interesting or well written with nuance and relatable qualities.

Let's contrast two GL love scenes to illustrate.

We have Shayne and Marina back in 2003. They had a rather racy love scene. The rumor was that you could see Marty West's butt on the show and that because of that, John Conboy was fired from the show. The rumor proved to be unfounded, but the love scene still fell flat. The reason was not because of the raciness of the production but because Shayne and Marina were a horrible couple. Marty West couldn't act his way out of a burlap sack and Aubrey Dollar's Marina was beginning to wear thin (It was to get worse during the MAC story). Not to mention that Ellen Weston destroyed a much more interesting pairing in Ben (Matt Bomer) and Marina in favor of this one. The couple was not written well, nor had any real chemistry.

IN contrast, we have Olivia and Phillip a few months before. Their love scene almost gave my tv a short. But the direction wasn't entirely to blame. The moment had been building for months in a wonderfully written triangle with Alan. Plus, not only did we have the love scene itself, but we saw Phillip's resignation about the games his family continued to play, we saw them both realize that Alan faked his death, we saw Alan having a REAL heart attack while his wife and son got it on. The story was good and had depth, the chemistry between the actors was there and the acting was wonderful.

Writers simply do not know how to take their time anymore. BUILD THINGS UP. Love scenes used to be culminations to stories that writers built to for months. Now? Couples jump in the sack with half the town and writers play musical chairs with the canvas every few months or so.

^^^Yeah, that. However, I don't mind the surprising ONS like Nick/Phyllis Y&R.

^^^Yeah, that. However, I don't mind the surprising ONS like Nick/Phyllis Y&R.

Oh me too. The Ross/Blake ONS is IMO one of the best stories of that sort on daytime. But even that was built up and was the character motivation was logical and well defined.

I miss the older briefs the male characters used to wear. I remember Brad from Y&R used to wear the hottest and tightest undies. I don't think we'll ever see that again on soaps.

They definetly seemed to be more explicit in the late 80s into the 90s--I can remember in ht e80s episodes of DOnahue discussing them like they were pornographic and worried kids would see them, etc.

Of course in the late 90s (I think?) CBS had those few instances of male rear nudity as well--the kinda thing that was also being tried on primetime (Once and Again, NYPD Blue) but since Janet Jackson and "nipplegate" seems to be completely not allowed now (I mean Soapnet, which is cable, had to cut out the pretty tame nudity that was on MVP in Canada...)

Writers simply do not know how to take their time anymore. BUILD THINGS UP. Love scenes used to be culminations to stories that writers built to for months. Now? Couples jump in the sack with half the town and writers play musical chairs with the canvas every few months or so.

Well, if buildup is what it takes, the racy love scene to come between Luke and Noah should fry the tubes!

Oh yeah...what racy love scene? I think it would take some guts for CBS and TeleNext to commit to that, eh?

I miss the racy love scenes between couples that I like.

Incredible build up = Carly&Jack ATWT

Pornorama!!!

I miss the racy love scenes between couples that I like.

Same Here

I miss good old love in the afternoon between couples I know love each other use an entire episode just kissing and talking, and being in love.

^^^ I really miss that

I remember Bo and Billie getting it on in the shower once. There were all sorts of close-up groping shots.

The lack of skin is ridiculous. It's 2008, check out foreign soaps. People undressed while in bed is part of real life. GH, they're hesitant to show so much as knee.

Always makes me think of this A Current Affair investigation into soap love scenes (complete with Doug Marland and JFPhelps interviews!)