Emmerdale: Discussion Thread

[AMCOLTLLover]

The actor of Tom King is leaving the show. I hope they don’t drag his exit til Christmas like some assume on Instagram.

But Belle and Tom is the only reason for me to stick with it right now. 
 

and every scene Kim is in. 

[I Am A Swede]

Of course he will leave. After this story there's no chance of the character staying on. The only question is if he will leave alive....

[LondonScribe]

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[I Am A Swede]

Thank you for that. It was fascinating to see all the aspects of the plane crash and its impact on Emmerdale (and on soaps in general) discussed so thoroughly. I remember when I watched it originally and it was indeed riveting. But now I have mixed emotions about it. On one hand it did apparently save Emmerdale from cancellation and death, but on the other hand it set it on a path that, to me anyway, has still led to it dying, only more slowly. And I don't at all agree with the idea that Emmerdale was boring before the plane crash. It had a very distinctive identity that set it apart from all the other soaps. I found it interesting that that was one of the things that attracted Phil Redmond to it, since the changes he started ultimately led to the extinction of that special identity and turned Emmerdale into just another generic soap. There's really no difference anymore between Coronation Street, EastEnders or Emmerdale.

I may be in the minority, but I really miss the old Emmerdale Farm years, but at the same time I realize that had the show stayed that way it would probably no longer be on the air. So the big question then is, has it been worth it? For all the people that have jobs thanks to Emmerdale, most certainly, but for the show itself...? If the show had ended back then at the very least we would all have been spared the sight of some of television's most loathsome characters ever created.....

[I Am A Swede]

Well, some more information has been coming out about the new Sugden..... It looks like he will be Jack's son after all. The result of an affair Jack had between Pat's death and the start of his relationship with Sarah. And, he's apparently gay. So I guess we all know where this will be heading.....

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Edited August 5, 2024 by I Am A Swede

[Liberty City]

[DRW50]

Most of that came out in an article a month ago - someone edited it afterward but not quickly enough.

Being tied to Aaron means he will probably only last a year and not make it out alive. We'll see if they avoid being as lazy as they were with Jamie Tate and Tom King.

[I Am A Swede]

I have to give them credit though since, for once, they actually seem to have done their homework. This will seemingly not be a story taken out of thin air but actually rooted in Emmerdale history.... I know, shocking isn't it?! Meet John Sugden's mother:

https://emmerdale.fandom.com/wiki/Barbara_(1988_character)

[DRW50]

Thanks for the extra info.

I know how time-consuming it is to work on Wikis, but I wish they'd chosen a more flattering photo...

[I Am A Swede]

I'm nitpicking a bit I know, and I am grateful that they add a Sugden to the show, but I would have liked it if he could have been Joe's son instead. Just to have a different branch of the Sugden family tree live on. They killed off Peggy's twins, and Joe never got to have any biological children on the show. It would have required any change in timeframe, since Joe had a relationship with veterinarian Ruth Pennington around that same time (1987-88) and she could very well have been pregnant when she left.

[DRW50]

That's a nice idea. If they cared, they would have a brief return by Joe while Frazer is still with us. Even just a ghost visit.

[NothinButAttitude]

So do you think they are possibly setting up for a Robert return too? And the two brothers to face off for Aaron? 

As someone who used to love Aaron, I grew to hate him by the time I stopped watching full-time. I grew tired of him sulking over wanting to change Robert. Like it grew tiresome. 

I think not having Diane there to assimilate this character into the Sugdens is going to be hard to convince too. I do agree that having made him Joe's son might've been better b/c you wouldn't need Diane there for that. You kind of need Robert and Andy there too. 

Is Kelvin open to returning? I doubt Ryan or Karl would want to reprise their role as Robert. 

[DRW50]

I don't think he wants to (and given his political views I'm not sorry).

I do miss Diane, but she barely ever seemed to have ties to Robert in his last stint. I do wish they'd bring her back long enough to at least meet John. 

[NothinButAttitude]

Are we talking about Kelvin? And what are his political views if you don't mind me asking? Lord, he's a Brexit/Conservative nut, huh? Jesus. 

That aside, I do feel like Diane needs to be brought back a stint to at least acknowledge him and build some type of relationship with him. 

[DRW50]

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/strictlys-kelvin-fletcher-risks-tv-20325676

I imagine there's more - I haven't seen his account in a long time. I remember he and John Bowe saying a lot on the topics back when they were on the show. 

I agree Diane should make a brief appearance at the very least, if the show has any interest in John being anything but another of Aaron's corpses.