I'd never seen that one before.

That's nice he wants people to vote for Lindsey Coulson.

There were so many small moments that I loved in this episode. The silence as everyone waited for Carol to come out of the living room, when Alfie came to the door to give back the keys, the nervous laughter from Lauren (which could have been ruined easily, and I'm happily surprised that it worked) and even Bianca catching Carol in her arms as the undertakers put Billy in their van. Just so much great stuff with the BEST character on the show as the lead. Honestly, if this show was just the Butcher's I'd probably love it even more. And this is only Monday, having a cold will not help with the amount of tissues I'll be going through this week.

Vote Coulson for what?

Edited October 11, 201015 yr by Amello

National Television Awards.

It's actually more difficult to find black couples on the show than white/black couples. The only ones I can remember long-term are Denise/Lucas, and then some of the Tavernier siblings had relationships with other black characters. They've also had several mixed-race children on the show, like Billie, and Libby. Sue and Ali also had mixed-race children.

I see your point and in some ways I think Billie could have stayed, especially since I hoped Alan might get to come back for a longer stay if Billie were alive, but they screwed up as soon as they brought Devon Anderson back.

Yes but, it's sad that there aren't bi-racial characters from main families. Characters that can be long term. They should take this chance to pair Tamwar with Lauren or something. I guess I just expect too much. Sigh.

Y&RWT already said so much I agree with, but I finally got to watch the episode. I really appreciated how this episode was done. I've heard some fans say this was different than the usual Eastenders but I think it's actually Eastenders at its best -- the cold realism. I think Julia Smith and Tony Holland would have been proud of this episode. I think Eastenders is at its finest when you feel like you are watching real people and not when it sees itself as being Dynasty with a pub.

That scene of Carol walking back home was rough to watch, especially when she saw the little girl and the mother. Probably the parts that got me most were when Carol kept asking the doctor, "What do I do now?" And the gasp she made when she pulled back the blanket And Patsy Palmer, she was just about perfect throughout the episode. I don't envy Patsy playing scenes like this when she's pregnant. One of the many good things about Carol's return is that Bianca is allowed to go back to being the scared girl, not the shouty mother.

That scene where they were waiting and waiting for the undertakers to finish up, and then when Bianca burst into tears...it was just so unbearable.

I know that this was the same year as Bradley's death but I'm glad they did this now because we don't know how much longer Lindsey will be on the show and we know that Patsy is leaving soon for maternity break. And this really was about the two of them.

This story seems like a goodbye to the old Jacksons and the dreams of what they could have been. I wish Robbie could be there too, but I'm glad to have most of the group still present.

That last scene was just...Carol is so broken that she was trying her best to cry, struggling even for that.

This story seems like a goodbye to the old Jacksons and the dreams of what they could have been. I wish Robbie could be there too, but I'm glad to have most of the group still present.

It's funny that I tend not to associate Robbie and Sonia with the Jackson clan as much as I do with Bianca and Billie. I guess because of the time those characters spent on the show when all the other Jackson's were gone. I sometimes forget that Robbie and Sonia are even Carol's children since I associate them more with Jim and the Branning side of Carol's family than with Carol and Alan. Sonia in particular I associate most with Jim and the Fowler's.

I always wondered why Sonia never reached out or thought about her Carol when she was going through a lot traumatic events in her life throughout most of the 00's. Out of all of Carol's relationships with her children, the one with Sonia is the least developed, and she's the kid that lasted the longest (unfortunately) on the show.

I don't think Robbie and Sonia are needed for this story, but if the show ever decides to kill Jim, and I guess they eventually will with John Bardon's health, their absence would be too noticeable.

I associate Robbie with the Jacksons mostly because of the story where he was accused of raping Sarah Hills. I loved that scene where Bianca went after the Hills father, whatever his name was, Travis off Blake's 7, in the market after he beat Robbie up.

Sonia didn't really have anything to do when Bianca and Carol were around so I forget about her sometimes. That and Natalie couldn't have returned during filming.

I don't think they desperately needed Robbie but I would have liked to have seen him.

Edited October 12, 201015 yr by CarlD2

Lyndsey Coulson has signed up for another year on the show.

fantastic news for EE.

Really? That's wonderful news.

Apparently she was unhappy they killed Billie off.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gjENfw99TLO80SvNzQPbJj5076xg?docId=N0229981286885539626A

It seems like she's more sad to see Devon go than Billie go...

9.7 million tuned in last night.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a281599/billies-enders-death-seen-by-97m.html

Kirkwood apparently gave these spoilers to Inside Soap:

Ronnie & Jack's wedding is in November and is a big episode not to mention very important for some reason.

Bianca is leaving for a while but Patsy will be back. He talks about what would be the only thing to make Bianca leave her kids?

Tanya & Max are going to be happy with Greg & Vanessa but a nuclear bomb is going to blow their family apart creating lots of drama in the process.

Ben will be back at Christmas still the Mitchell misfit.

He has had a terrible time in the children's unit and it will keep us filled with storylines for a while.

Kat & Alfie's 'epic' story starts in the New Year and will blow their world in two.

Jane will drop her mission to con Ian when she falls back in love with him.

Roxy will take control of her life.

Tamwar gets a girlfriend and Michael Moon returns with his eyes fixed on another Square stunner.

Edited October 12, 201015 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

For all the criticism Kirkwood got over the scenes with Jane, I am more and more convinced that was a Santer/DTC story -- he certainly is ending it fast enough. They are the ones who ruined her in the first place.

I wonder if Michael is going to try to take Roxy's money.

Someone at Walford Web said that Carol

tries to kill herself, but Billie's friend Conor stops her, and they have sex.

Apparently Vanessa

tells Harry that Jodie isn't his daughter. Some are speculating that Greg will be the father.

Edited October 12, 201015 yr by CarlD2

I hope there is more in store with the Beales. Their lacking presence leaves a huge hole in the show.