Members DRW50 Posted March 22 Members Share Posted March 22 That makes a lot of sense. It also helps explain why I was interested in the show. The Loving Murders does feel like something that could have ripped through a P&G town (like AW...repeatedly). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted March 22 Members Share Posted March 22 I think a lot of us are fascinated with LOV for a lot of reasons, not just those of us who love the Murders but also particularly the protean nature of the show; how it morphs into so many different shows and canvases over and over, especially in the '90s. There's so many disparate pieces that work or could work. But I would disagree that there's not much of Agnes in it. I said in the past and stand by the idea that it can be seen as an Agnes test laboratory for various stories, concepts, character archetypes, etc. which she revisited over and over through her career, including again and again at AMC in later years - in addition to Ava and Kate, Ally, etc., I think Cooper and Hannah, Steffi, etc. all are descended from Phil and Tara and other Agnes young love attempts, and can be seen to prefigure Becca and Scott, Greenlee, etc., all the way down to Pete and Celia and poor sweet suffering rich boy A.J. at AMC 2.0. You have various goofball characters (Egypt) that resemble her AMC successes or that she later tried to recreate again (arguably in the redemption attempts with Kate Collins' Janet at the end of AMC in summer '11, and Billy Clyde on AMC 2.0); you have the older Black character who is clearly an analog for Sadie Gray after Agnes tried and failed to port Ellen Holly and Lillian Hayman from OLTL to LOV. Here, in this misty little show too few watched, Agnes tinkered with her private fascinations over and over. That's a big part of what makes me often revisit the show, in addition to the unique visions of other writing teams coming in over and over trying to reconfigure the show to new visions from those parts. And that's not even getting to the Marland stuff early on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted March 22 Members Share Posted March 22 I can definitely see Minnie as potentially filling the role Sadie could have had. It's interesting how much better the young love elements of Loving were (especially the Cooper/Ally/Casey/Steffi quad) compared to what happened with AMC in the '90s and early '00s. I'm not sure why - maybe more ABC influence and poorer producers and writers. I wish Agnes could have done more about the hatchet job on Egypt in her '94 return. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BetterForgotten Posted March 27 Members Share Posted March 27 A little bit of Lisa Brown’s brief role on Loving, in scenes with Debbi Morgan - so weird seeing her in a role other that Iva and Nola. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted March 27 Members Share Posted March 27 Thanks for that. I saw some of Lisa's crazy villain stint awhile back, it seems so weird. (Didn't she mind control Charles and kill Casey?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kane Posted March 28 Members Share Posted March 28 She hypnotized Charles into forgetting about the circumstances of the deaths of Jacob's wife and son. Casey's death was unrelated - he was killed by Pat Graham. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cassadine1991 Posted March 28 Members Share Posted March 28 Do we know their names? Jacob’s family 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kane Posted March 29 Members Share Posted March 29 His wife was named Teresa and his son was named David. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 3 Members Share Posted April 3 Sorry, not sure if this promo was already around. I just saw it now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 11 Members Share Posted April 11 A clip of Jack/Lily/Curtis in this Daytime Dilemma video, midway through. It repeats later, with better audio. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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