Believe me, hearing it and watching it unfold on-screen didn't make it any easier to accept.

Dru, in the woods, fishing. I don't frakking believe it.

Maybe I have a chip on my shoulder when it comes to VR, but I was a little offended by it. Given the way Dru "died", kissing the fishes sounds a lot like sleeping with the fishes.

Imagine, though, how much money that would free up for the show. Who knows? Maybe we'll finally get some decent flower arrangements again, lol.

Or they could fire the dozen or so writers that have sucked up all the quality of Y&R.

Wow, Gloria really freaks me out every time she kisses someone. When she starts kissing someone her eyes stay wide open and then close later. I've seen it million times and it still freaks me out.

Even though he directed only two episodes, I really like the music Jim Sayegh uses in the scenes.

Also... I've been thinking about Michael's storyline lately... why would I care if he finally finds Lowell? Even if he brings him to Genoa City, whatever he turns out to be, good or bad, I just don't see anything interesting in that storyline. I don't know why.

I don't know why either, dmarex. Unless Lowell returns either to whisk Gloria away, rape Lauren, or ultimately cause Michael to be disbarred, frankly, I'm not going to care.

I don't know why either, dmarex. Unless Lowell returns either to whisk Gloria away, rape Lauren, or ultimately cause Michael to be disbarred, frankly, I'm not going to care.

At this point, as long as Lowell doesn't end up a trillionaire and falls in love with the fair Gloria, no storyline could be TOO bad.

Given the way Dru "died", kissing the fishes sounds a lot like sleeping with the fishes.

You know, that didn't occur to me, TC? But now that it has...? I think you're right. And certainly, given the way Drucilla "died," I don't know if Devon and Lily would be so happy to recollect their (heretofore unknown) trip to the woods w/o mentioning where and how their mother "died", either.

You know, that didn't occur to me, TC? But now that it has...? I think you're right. And certainly, given the way Drucilla "died," I don't know if Devon and Lily would be so happy to recollect their (heretofore unknown) trip to the woods w/o mentioning where and how their mother "died", either.

So were the writers mocking VR? Jesus, she's definitely not coming back now.

At this point, as long as Lowell doesn't end up a trillionaire and falls in love with the fair Gloria, no storyline could be TOO bad.

Actually, that (Lowell coming to Genoa City as a wealthy man) might have its' advantages. At the very least, if he were to win Gloria back, that would put an end to her days as a shopgirl out of a bad Ginger Rogers movie (because, let me tell you, if/when she gets fired again from Jabot, there's only one place for her to go, and that's to the Newman ranch as a maid, and I know I don't care to see Gloria as Victor's maid).

Actually, that (Lowell coming to Genoa City as a wealthy man) might have its' advantages. At the very least, if he were to win Gloria back, that would put an end to her days as a shopgirl out of a bad Ginger Rogers movie (because, let me tell you, if/when she gets fired again from Jabot, there's only one place for her to go, and that's to the Newman ranch as a maid, and I know I don't care to see Gloria as Victor's maid).

:lol:

Gloria as Victor's maid... Good chuckle. That would just be hilarious...

Just imagine the a amazing love story that could erupt...

Maybe Victor will fall in love, then Gloria's "terrible-Lowell" will arrive in Genoa City, Victor will kill him, and you know the rest...

Edited June 18, 200817 yr by dmarex

Seriously though, Gloria needs to either die, go to prison, or be SEVERELY backburned...

I think it's Josh Griffith who has a hard-on for Gloria/Judith Chapman.

Question is, does Y&R have any couples right now who inspire such fanatical loyalty amongst the audience? Heck, I think even some diehard Phick fans are wishing Phyllis and Nick would split up, lol. And Victor/Sabrina might be the first couple in Y&R (if not all soap) history to have a very vocal anti-fan base.

LOL. You got that right!

Seriously though, Gloria needs to either die, go to prison, or be SEVERELY backburned...

Amen.

OMG, are you watching the same show as we are? Sorry but AH better than HT? You obviously didn't watch HT's performance from 1991-2003.

How is CK or TS an improvement to the amazing performers that had the role before? Come on.

HT is a brilliant actress, but her version of Victoria was not the least bit likeable - she was an immature, selfish bitch for her entire tenure on the show.

CK is an enormous improvement over DS, who put absolutely NO emotion into her performances. I remember a scene where Lily asked Daniel if he was seeing someone else, and she said it as if she were saying "you want sugar in your coffee?". No emotion at all. Most of the time she looked like she really didn't want to be there.

AL is a good actress, but she was NEVER Colleen. Her version of Colleen was a bitch, much like HT's Victoria. TS is brilliant - she has made Colleen likeable for the first time since Lyndsy Fonseca.

y&r fan, your opinions always make me laugh You're the only funny part of Y&R right now thanks to your blindness

I have a right to express my opinion without being ridiculed by you.

But you incessantly back TS like you're related to her LOL. To each their own, but I still find it jarring.

I was a fan of TS long before she joined Y&R, and she gets more crap from fans than any other actor on the show. I know what she is capable of given the right material, and that is why I get defensive of her.

While most of these actresses that you enjoy are capable, you must admit they haven't been receiving the quality storylines of Y&R's good ol' days, you must admit that. Unless you think the Clear Springs/Carmen Mesda/Reliquary storylines were quality...

No, the CS and Reliquary SLs were not quality. The Carmen SL was okay. But the SLs are not the actors' fault.

But, y&r_fan, I would encourage you to check out some classic Y&R clips on YouTube. I would hate you to think that recent Y&R is the benchmark in quality when, in actual fact, that bar was set so much higher in the pre-LML days.

I have been watching Y&R since the 90s, so I don't need to watch clips. And yes, I am enjoying it now as much as I ever did.

At the risk of having posters tar and feather me... I still say that Judith Chapman is one of the finer actors on Y&R and at least Gloria's story has some impetus.

Now THAT I agree with!

Edited June 19, 200817 yr by y&r_fan

You must be happy Tammin is back then.