I thought the pairing of CC/Santana under Paul Burke and Ava Lazar was nauseating - especially their bed scenes. He looked like her grandfather. 😳

Part of an April or May 1985 episode and a full one right after (don't be fooled by the runtime as everything after the end of the second episode is a blue screen).

 

 

 

On 4/7/2019 at 9:14 PM, j swift said:

I have always been confused about Sophia's pre-SB timeline. 

 

In the early 1960s, she dated CC's brother, then Lionel, and then married CC in 1961 while pregnant with Channing/Brick.  I say 1961 because Channing was 18 at the time of his death in 1979.  They stay married for 7-8 more years while she had Eden, Kelly, and Ted. 

 

Then, does she restart the affair with Lionel after Ted was born?  That would be around 1968 if Ted was 16 in 1984 when the series premiered.  So, she falls off the Lockridge yacht in 1968, meets Count Armonti and his son and moves to Italy.  Then, she comes back in 1979 to shoot Channing (by mistake), goes back to Italy and then returns in 1984?

 

So did she have an affair with Lionel at two different times (before CC and after Ted's birth)?  And did she meet the Count in 1968 or after Channing's shooting in 1979?  Why was an internationally known actress like Sofia never recognized in Europe?

 

 

The SB historical timeline continues to evoke questions.

 

Given that Channing and Warren were the same age, how much older do you think Mason was supposed to be?

 

After three re-casts Mason seemed to de-age, but he had to be 4-5 years older than Channing, which would make him 7 years older than Eden.  

 

Also, given that they went to high school together, what do you think was the age difference between Cruz, Victoria, & Keith versus Eden?  

 

I ask because if Santana went to high school with Cruz, (and secretly dated Channing), while living in the Capwell home with her mother, was she supposed to be the same age as Mason and therefore older than Channing?  Was Santana dating an under-aged-closeted-gay-man while in her 20's?  

2 hours ago, j swift said:

The SB historical timeline continues to evoke questions.

 

Given that Channing and Warren were the same age, how much older do you think Mason was supposed to be?

 

After three re-casts Mason seemed to de-age, but he had to be 4-5 years older than Channing, which would make him 7 years older than Eden.  

 

Also, given that they went to high school together, what do you think was the age difference between Cruz, Victoria, & Keith versus Eden?  

 

I ask because if Santana went to high school with Cruz, (and secretly dated Channing), while living in the Capwell home with her mother, was she supposed to be the same age as Mason and therefore older than Channing?  Was Santana dating an under-aged-closeted-gay-man while in her 20's?  

Sophia's timeline was also confusing. I always got the impression Sophia was more of a B-movie actress. That would explain why she wasn't so easily recognized in my opinion.

 

It makes sense that Mason was at least 6 to 8 years older than Eden. I'm not sure we ever got clarification on how long CC was married to Pamela.

 

Ugh, Pamela...a character that was sooo mishandled. She should have been the show's Alexis Colby IMO.

2 hours ago, pdm1974 said:

After three re-casts Mason seemed to de-age, but he had to be 4-5 years older than Channing, which would make him 7 years older than Eden

 

Actually, I believe the opposite is true. Pretty sure Mason's age was adjusted to whomever played him. Think - been so long so I'm not sure I'm right - Gordon Thomson's Mason once referred to his mother leaving when he was around 11. Pretty sure he was younger under Lane Davies.

 

So if the character's age depended on the actor, he stayed pretty consistent from Lane Davies to Terry Lester as both men were born in 1950. He then aged a bit under Gordon Thomson, who was born in 1945.

As I've said before, the best way to enjoy SB is to ignore the backstory as much as possible. If you try to decipher it too much, your head will explode.

Did we ever find out what happened to Cruz's sister, Carmen? Or did she just disappear...sort of like CC's lost son, Greg. There one day...never seen or spoken about again.

16 hours ago, pdm1974 said:

Did we ever find out what happened to Cruz's sister, Carmen? Or did she just disappear...sort of like CC's lost son, Greg. There one day...never seen or spoken about again.

 

Carmencita? She did indeed just vanish.

RIP Paula Kelly (ex-Ginger)

 

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Broadway-and-Film-Actress-Paula-Kelly-Dies-at-76-20200209

1 minute ago, antmunoz said:

RIP Paula Kelly (ex-Ginger)

 

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Broadway-and-Film-Actress-Paula-Kelly-Dies-at-76-20200209

 

So sad to hear. When watching the first portion of SB (on YT), I found her arc with Peter/Kelly to be so interesting and she shined. 

 

Don't know if she was supposed to be full-time, but I always felt she was one character/actress that should've been kept from the original lineup. 

Sorry to hear about her passing. I remember her from Night Court and St. Elsewhere.

 

On 2/9/2020 at 11:49 PM, DRW50 said:

Sorry to hear about her passing. I remember her from Night Court and St. Elsewhere.

 

She was also great in episodes of Amen and The Golden Girls.

RIP Roscoe Born...

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/daytimeconfidential.com/.amp/2020/03/06/soap-star-roscoe-born-dies-at-age-69

 

In other "news", Mark Arnold (Joe Perkins #2) popped up in a rerun of The Doctors yesterday on Retro TV. The episode originally aired in October 1979. He played a brash intern who got read the riot act by the show's female lead, Dr. Maggie Powers (Lydia Bruce).